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Trump Fumbles Repeatedly in Terrifying Speech at Florida Rally
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Where is he "polling at 35%"?
I believe the meme should say "approval rating at 35%"
Edit: the OP corrected me below
So the whole argument the poster is making is based on a general misunderstanding of what's going on?
Yep. Tropical is a troll account.
Which is not out of place for a president at this point in their first term.
Approval ratings at the end of first term:
Idk dude, of the four below 40%, 3 of them did not see a second term.
Sources:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/final-presidential-job-approval-ratings
Edit: Anyone upvoting this comment is now cursed by my stupidity
Uh, what?
Removing trump and Biden from the list, since one of them will see a second term, of the other 4 only Carter didn't see a second term. Truman was only elected President once, but he served as President for almost 8 full years. Nixon won reelection, but resigned before his second term was out.
And even if you go as far as saying that 3 of the 4 didn't serve 2 full terms... I think it's highly unlikely either of the 2 current candidates will see the 2028 election.
Yeah I'm just an absolute idiot, that is what's going on with that comment lmao. You're right
Still, if you are comfortable with where Biden's campaign is at this point, if you're confident that he can win given his current approval and polls...you're at least lot more confident than me, and a lot more confident than many democratic lawmakers
I'm neither comfortable nor confident... but even if Biden were a corpse I would still be voting against trump.
As all should
Are you suggesting that the GoPs bogeyman was tied for third-most popular president?
And it's relatively meaningless because a lot of Americans are forced to vote, every fucking election for their entire adult life, for the lesser evil.
Tropicals mind
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/
Ipsos/Reuters is like, the grade A of grade A pollsters.
That's 36%, not 35%. According to the link you shared overall Biden is polling about 40%, 2.2% behind Trump.
That also shows Trump at 36%, so polling at 36% is pretty good for that tiny subset of the poll you shared.
Here's a link to the entire poll that you decided not to share for some reason.
Interestingly enough the headline for the poll you didn't link is "Only Michelle Obama bests Trump as an alternative to Biden in 2024". I wonder why you went out of your way to obfuscate that.
Sure, that's the narrative they went with, but notice how they're all on about equal ground with Biden and, unlike Biden due to his mental decline and his administration's lacking ability to communicate, might actually be able to run a coherent campaign if given the chance. Voters are overwhelmingly voting for Biden because he's not Trump. Any one of those candidates can both clear that bar and bring something to the table that actually motivates voters.
I appreciate the good faith response rather than FUD and dismissive memes.
I agree with all of your concerns about the Biden administrations lack of communication and his age. However I disagree that any of those candidates are particularly exciting, they all have pretty much the same national and forgein policies Biden, they're just younger.
At this point being not Biden might be exciting enough for some people. Whoever the candidate is they'll still have the general DNC baggage turning of black voters. They'll have the same support for Israel turing of the anti-Israeli voters. Plus they'll have whatever individual baggage they have that most voters don't know about.
Also we have no idea how they'll perform in a national debate or how successful they'll be at campaigning. Running a presidential campaign is a completely different monster than a state race.
I don't disagree that an alternative to Biden needs to be considered, but I don't see a clearly better candidate out there or a way to replace Biden that won't cause even more problems for the DNC.
I'm not saying they bring anything to the table that Biden doesn't, except maybe being able to avoid his reputation of going around congress to support Israel, but that goes both ways as Biden does have supporters that also support Israel and if Republicans attack a candidate's non-support, I don't expect a democratic candidate to play much defense for Palestine to bring those people back around.
I'm saying that Biden is unable to campaign and make voters aware of what he brings to the table and what he has done to make things better for the average American. Especially in the direct time after COVID.
I guess if nothing else can be done then we're about to watch the DNC learn another lesson at the expense of the stability of our entire nation because, mark my words, he (and we) will not be able to win this fight. The voters cannot be blamed for the failings of the democratic establishment.
Even if he does win, the DNC will have learned that they can put anyone up and cede as much ground to the republicans as they want, as long as the other guy is worse, and I wouldn't call that much of a democracy either. So I'd like to say that I hope I'm wrong, as I will be voting for Biden, but I really can't argue against anyone sitting this one out either.
I might be able to make an argument if they put someone else up, if they give me points to argue for, and I expect that might be the case among voters like myself en masse that argue in good faith and don't expect all the heavy lifting to be done via team-based politics and whataboutism. That is why I argue for democrats to do better even if time is running short. It's honestly, in my opinion, the best we can realistically hope for.