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[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's because your book doesn't paint a full picture of the right and all the factions within. You probably think every right-winger is either a MAGA supporter or a generic NeverTrumper. There are right-wing groups more radical than MAGA, who are very anti-Semitic and believe that Trump and his followers are too moderate. These are actual Neo-Nazi groups, who hate Jews, and want a race war. They're much more ideological, and they don't really care about the cult surrounding Trump, they just want to work towards an ethnostate. Many of them even believe that MAGA is a hindrance to further radicalization of the right and white nationalist politics, and supported DeSantis over Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter is a groyper. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

We’ve talked about this on hexbear before, how Neo-Nazis actually support Biden because he gives so much support to the Nazis who run Ukraine. Some Neo-Nazis at least think that Trump is too “Jewish,” has a Jewish son-in-law, etc. Trump has been quite vocal about ending support to Ukraine if he wins the election.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (7 children)

If he's more extreme than the MAGA crowd then how would that explain his democrat past? That's such a radical change in political ideology over such a short time.

He was probably terrified of project 2025.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If he's more extreme than the MAGA crowd then how would that explain his democrat past? That's such a radical change in political ideology over such a short time.

half the people here were generic centrist libs in 2016 and turbomaoist anarcho-tankies with dolphin characteristics in 2017

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In 2017 I was a russiagate crank cringe

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lmao dweeb
I've never been wrong though, so don't look into my past

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

Kids can have dramatic, drastic changes in politics in quite short periods

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

My guy have you never been 17? You are like an empty bucket waiting to be loaded with ideas. He was in highschool at 17, graduated, no indications he went to college, and does what for the next 3 years? Works a deadbeat job and possibly hangs out online a lot?

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

According to public records, he registered as a Republican in 2021, and voted as Republican in 2022, before Project 2025 was even leaked to the public. I don't know why a chud would be terrified of Project 2025 unless he was undergoing a political change of heart again, or was a closeted queer person who realized what it would mean for him. It doesn't seem very likely to me.

[–] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

"Ideology" is not a fixed thing, specially in unstable times and with the internet around. This is a confused person experiencing material decline with access to guns and internet forums, and that's probably as deep as it goes. It only gets confusing if you think it is supposed to make sense on it's own (ie. the whole analysis begins and ends with the parties and this one individual, nothing else). This is why marxists talk so much about "material conditions", which is what makes nebulous political phenomena make sense

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's such a radical change in political ideology over such a short time.

Most of the people here on hexbear would like a word with you

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I was 17 in 1999 and 20 in 2002

1999 me and 2002 me were sooooo incredibly different

honestly makes me wonder about people who didn't change a bunch from late teens to early 20s. like, that's the time of your life you're supposed to be changing rapidly and becoming a totally different person as you separate from your family and become an adult – was your childhood just that awesome and leftist or were you sheltered or what

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

~~i know I'm one of them 🫠~~

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Democrats are also right wing

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

yeah, right here with you, I'm thinking either Groyper or Boogaloo