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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5268146

The Left In The Us Is Really Diverse

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[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Sadly, yes, Imperialism will have to decay a bit more before we start seeing more serious demographic shifts.

[-] I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I hope you didn't actually take the Christman pill

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

Unfamiliar with the reference 🫠

[-] I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Okay then you meant it in a bad way not a "this is the vestigal artisan class here to raise our consciousness" or whatever he meant by that shit way carry on

[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago
[-] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

gonna reply to you instead of the Christman hater since that user will just put dogshit in the box and click "reply"

Looking Backward cushvlog, he starts talking about it at the very beginning around four minutes in

he makes a case that he is an artisan in terms of relationship to the means of production, but I don't know where the characterization about "raising consciousness" above comes from, because it's not in this one as far as I can tell.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[-] I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Podcasterism saul-your-honor

What Chris Hedges and Matt Christman and other lefty journalists view as revolutionary activity is little more than entertainment, no matter how self-referential it becomes on this subject. I don't see it as raising consciousness but co-opting rising consciousness for a grift. Christman just wowed us by explaining he was grifting us. I don't see anything particularly groundbreaking about Debord or Fisher apart from their ability to stretch ideas (Debord seems to think media criticism is the most important thing ever invented ISTFG), and a lot of people have criticized how leftists who forego better material for it are just doing advanced media criticism and navel gazing.

Hedges is more like the old guard of lefty journalism that spends all its time worship their celebrities like Daniel Ellsberg (a blatant fed to the point of almost admitting it frequently) and Noam Chomsky (who is Chomsky™️ the premier brand for people who think the US is doing radlibs a favor by letting them speak and is better than nasty authoritarian countries, and just like Coca Cola even people who think they don't agree with the branding drink it up). I'm not saying he's also jokerpilled. I'm saying the jokerpill's not as wacky or new as it seems.

[-] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago
[-] I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You take away downvotes from yourself only to come crawling back to them in emote form. I love it.

[-] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

It at least has more accountability this way. I genuinely could not parse a good 2/3 of your reply.

[-] I_CAST_BEAM_OF_BATS_I_CAST_BOLT_OF_BATS@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Accountability is already handled by mods checking who upvotes 👍

garf-troll

[-] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

labor intensive, our hexbear janitors have enough on their plate that they don't do that routinely.

Christman literally said podcasters were part of a "vestige of the artisan class" but whatever it's not like anyone else here even knows about the shit they pretend to like anyways

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

I was basically saying the more the Global South pushes back, and the worse conditions in the US get because of this, the more people will turn to organizing.

If that's problematic, I'm willing to self-crit, I'm no theory expert and I'd love to learn.

I'm not a theory expert I barely understand what I read

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago
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