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I realize I may get some divisive answers, but if NATO Countries all agreed, mobilized, and went into Russia full force with no warning, what are the likely outcomes? (sh.itjust.works)

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EDIT: For clarification, I feel that the current situation on the ground in the war (vs. say a year ago) might indicate that an attack on Russia might not result in instant nuclear war, which is what prompted my question. I am well aware of the “instant nuclear Armageddon” opinion.

Serious question. I don’t need to be called stupid. I realize nuclear war is bad. Thanks!

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[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

If NATO invades, Russia is doomed. Putin doesn't care that Russia would still exist after a NATO victory, all he cares about is himself and his legacy. Both of which would be destroyed in a NATO victory.

So he would launch the nukes and watch Russia get wiped off the map, because if he can't have it, no one can. And at least he would go out with a bang, rather than suiciding in a bunker.

The oligarchs would not be able to prevent it. They might hold the political power, but the military order to launch the nukes comes directly from Putin. The best we could hope for is conscientious officers refusing the order.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

If the oligarchs ever thought Putin was legitimately about to use nukes, there would be a coup attempt.

Whether it would successfully stop the nukes is anyone's guess.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yep, I agree. But Putin has held on this long while he has royally screwed the Russian economy, and exposed their bumbling military for what it is. The oligarchs would have ousted him already if it was easy.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

royally screwed the Russian economy

Has he though? And are they REALLY hurting? I don't see much evidence especially of the latter.

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