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In some studies, at the end of them, I see:

"quitting smoking reduces your chance of dying from all causes."

So if I quit smoking I'm less likely to get hit by a bus?

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[-] norimee@lemmy.world 262 points 4 months ago

As a former ICU nurse I can tell you that someone who has been taking good care of their body, is fit and healthy, has a better chance of survival and less complications while recovering as someone who didn't. No matter the injury.

If you get hit by a bus and your lung is compromised it has a harder time compensating for the injury if it was already damaged.

So yes. You might have a better chance to survive a car crash if you haven't been smoking.

[-] Kintarian@lemmy.world 82 points 4 months ago

That's interesting. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

You might have a better chance to survive a car crash if you haven’t been smoking.

That's probably why I've survived so many car crashes.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

It sounds a bit like your poor driving is the cause for you to survive so many car crashes.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

But not poor enough to cause any fatal crashes. There's a driving skill sweet spot where you have maximum crash survival.

[-] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You can have one fatal crash. As a treat.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

OP: mom, can we have a fatal crash?

OP's mom: we have fatal crash at home

Fatal crash at home: idk where I'm going with this

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

There's your problem. I haven't survived a car crash since I started smoking!

[-] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've never survived being hit by a bus, and I don't smoke. Checkmate, atheists.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 16 points 4 months ago

Yeah. Came here to write exactly this.

What OP misunderstood is the old tale of mortality vs. lethality.

In a simplified explanation: Mortality defines the percentage of deaths in a population by a cause.

Lethality is the percentage of deaths of people suffering from a cause.

In our case:

  • Smokers might only get hit by a bus slightly less often or slightly more often(1) (Mortality)

  • But they have a far greater chance of dying from it when they get hit. The same can be said for being shot,etc. Being a smoker always reduces your statistical chances.

(1:Actually quite fascinating - there is conflicting evidence on that one, as smoking is often statistically associated with substance abuse and bad health - which increases the likelihood of major trauma events, but on the other hand smokers die earlier,leaving more old people to walk in front of vehicles due to reduced cognitive abilities)

[-] Kintarian@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

We must do something about all these old people getting run over by buses.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Less busses, more big trucks. Truck-Chan will isekai them safely.

[-] Kintarian@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I wonder what happens when the truck driver and the old person both smoke. Does that cancel them out? 🤔

[-] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

Puff, puff, pass away

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago
[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Free cigarettes! Should help reduce the number of old people getting run over by buses

[-] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

Indeed is major trauma (which getting run over by a bus is a euphemism for) a much overlooked concern for older people (especially "the younger" old people, which are between 60-75).

[-] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

smoking is often statistically associated with substance abuse and bad health - which increases the likelihood of major trauma events, but on the other hand smokers die earlier,leaving more old people to walk in front of vehicles due to reduced cognitive abilities)

So what about if we control for age? Are old smokers more or less likely to get hit by a bus than old non-smokers?

Quick, someone do an RCT.

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Wild and well put, thanks!

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