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[-] Rom@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

When the US sells weapons to Israel, the purpose is to ensure peace in the region by helping them hold a line of defense against military attacks from antagonistic countries; and in the case of Hamas, for the anti-terrorism operation of removing Hamas from power in Gaza, so that Palestinians can pursue self-determination free from terrorist rule.

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[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

This person exists within a fictional space where America is just the heckin good guy and not a bloodthirsty empire hell bent on ever more blood

[-] goferking0 29 points 1 month ago

They can't comprehend that a dem is letting it happen, only that it can somehow get worse with concentration camps or mass executions...which totally aren't already happening

[-] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

When that starts under the Kamala administration, they'll find another excuse.

It's kids in cages all over again.

[-] goferking0 18 points 1 month ago

Excuse will be anything she does will be never be as bad as. Trump. Cause you can total do worse than a genocide

[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The libs just want someone who will quietly and politely do genocide without dropping the mask too hard. Trump won't do that, so in their eyes he's automatically worse on this issue to a level they believe justifies voting for Harris. If that's not mathematical proof liberals are racists who care far more about the idea the United States is a fundamentally good country than they care about this genocide, then I don't know what is.

They will not put the smallest effort into even trying to think about how absurd they'd sound to the Palestinians who now constantly occupy the space between living a life with dignity and dying badly, their entire culture and identity extinguished because settlers are too racist to share. The US being a country descendant from the same type, is ever gleeful to aid Israel in any manner they deem necessary. Both of the American capitalist parties are entirely subservient to the same existing military industrial complex, they are both accomplice to the Palestinian genocide equally.

Given these two parties are our only option because of the way our voting system works, would it not be fair to say we actually do not have a democracy? All semblance that the US is not a blatant dictatorship of the capitalist class dies once you understand our electoral candidates run entirely at the whim of each capitalist party. Neither have any obligation to actually conduct primaries if they choose not to, you can't vote your way into forcing them to do something they fundamentally don't want to do. No one fucking voted for Kamala Harris, yet she's half our total allowed candidate pool.

Expressing support for one or the other genocidal capitalist faction makes these libs accomplice. In doing so, libs admit they believe stopping this genocide isn't as important as conducting this genocide gracefully. Either that or they believe stopping this genocide isn't as important as whatever domestic issue they believe the democrats pay lip service to. That doesn't justify throwing the Palestinians under the bus, which is what they're doing when they loudly exclaim the democrats have their vote regardless of any material intention to stop being accomplice to a genocide.

Anyone who isn't a racist shithead sees right through it, this tendency of western libs will be a useful litmus test in the years to come.

[-] amberSuperMario@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 month ago

Yeah I got to that comment tree and blacked out for a bit, knew it was time to close the thread. Just unbelievably vile people

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

the purpose is to ensure peace in the region by helping them hold a line of defense against military attacks from antagonistic countries

"we created this artificial problem and now we need to protect this artificial problem from the problems it created"

in the case of Hamas, for the anti-terrorism operation of removing Hamas from power in Gaza, so that Palestinians can pursue self-determination free from terrorist rule

"Whatever Gazans are still left after the Gazan ~~genocide~~ SMO will be free to return to their unacceptable living conditions they had before Hamas, wherein they had unacceptable living conditions but were run by a ~~resistance~~ terro (okay I'm not calling them that even for a bit) organization. Then we can all celebrate their return to unacceptable living conditions because it's not bothering Westerners any more"

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