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On this mega I shall take the opportunity to rant about one of my favorite things: the Webnovel UNJUST DEPTHS!
Do you love transgenders?
Do you love communism?
Do you love queer romance?
Do you love killing fascists in a giant fucking mech?
Would a plotline with all of these things happening in a underwater retro-futuristic gundam setting intrigue you?
Especially if its actually really well written with good characters, rich worldbuilding, and a marxist leninist transfem author?
All of the answers should be: YES I DO ~~or else I WILL BAN YOU~~
Since you obviously love all of those things then Unjust Depths is perfect for YOU yes YOU! It is DESTINY
The Imbrian Ocean is at a time of severe instability. The monarch of the vast Empire that spans its unjust depths (:3) is sick and nearing death, every territory of the ocean now vying to carve their own Destiny out of the chaos. From the Volk fascists 
, Zionists 
(they literally will not die why are they still here oh my god), The 'Anarchists' (social chauvanists) 
in Bosporus, and the monarchs 
of each vast noble domain, each vies for power and prestige no matter who they crush underfoot, but it would be a pretty depressing story without a bright light in the dark.
On the edge of the Empire sits the glorious Union! The (Soviet) Union 
is a socialist federation of three states (and one anarchist mountain 
)that were formerly slave colonies under the Imbrian Empire until they broke away in a fierce liberation war. They have spent the last 20 years since then building themselves up. Whether they be Human 
, Shimmi 
(Catgirls who usually follow a religion closely related to modern Islam), and Kattaran 
(a hybrid humanoid species with characteristics of sea life ranging from sharks to cuttlefish)building socialism side by side.
First lead under the revolutionary leader Dashka Kansal, then the Idealist Ahwalia who lead the country to near ruin in pursuit of building a utopia on pillars of sand, then under the scientific socialist 
leadership of the Grand Marshall of the Union, Bhavani Jayanskar (I love Jayanskar so much shes basically as if Stalin, Lenin, and Zhukov were rolled into the same person but was a black lesbian badass who wore the uniform REALLY WELL)(she aint the main character at all tho shes only in very few scenes i just love her so much). Under Jayanskar, the Union has been growing their economy to both eliminate hunger and give everyone a home 
, but also growing their military capabilities for the inevitable return of the Empire. The Union is alone, but with the people by its side nothing, not even Destiny, can snuff out true freedoms light. 
As war wages between the Empire and Republic (basically underwater USA) once more over the lands between them, the facade begins to finally crack...
And a border conflict between the Empire and Union escalate, and the dreaded reconquest begins.
Amidst this turmoil, lives our main characters (yes there are multiple and all of them are lovely). Each of whom I personally love dearly, and are very well characterized. Many are soldiers of the Union, some are scientists, some are divers (mech pilots), some are lost strands finding new meaning after joining this band of Brigands
All are Communists 
All serve the Union 
All would gladly give their lives to defending socialism 
but even they would have little inkling of the adventure set in store for them as the lands beneath the waves erupt in fire, fury, and revolt
Can these transgender badasses kick fascist ass?
Can they kiss? (oh my god please kiss ISTG THERE IS SO MUCH SHIPPING AHHHH ITS GLORIOUS)
FIND OUT HERE: https://unjustdepths.com/
please do or else I will pout incessantly
just try it pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase i need to talk to someone about it after Cromalin went AFK
(I miss her, she was a real one)
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How do you all feel about being queer isn't a choice arguments?
Like obviously feeling gay attraction or gender incongruence is not something you can chose, but acting upon those feelings are, and I'm personally proud that I took the choice to do something about my dysphoria and dare to be trans, despite all the societal pressures telling me not to.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel when people argue that it isn't a choice they're conceding that being queer is to some extent bad or abnormal, but that we shouldn't be blamed because we can't help it. I think it's important to establish that being queer isn't negative or weird, and nobody should need to excuse their queerness in any way.
On the other hand, I think most queer people agree we would be miserable if we chose to supress our queerness, so I also see why people argue that it isn't really a choice, so idk, maybe I'm just being weird about it.
i've been upsetting people by opposing the "it's not our choice" argument for like... 15 years or something. when i was a teen it really didn't land well with people. but i've seen a general movement towards people rejecting the argument in the past few years which i'm relieved about.
i very much agree that it concedes there is something wrong with being queer, that we wouldn't choose to be if we had a choice.
but even more than that i think it misses the point. choice means something very different to the people we're trying to reach with that argument. i mainly see those people as conservative christians, mainly american ones. and the thing is that they don't give a fuck what sexual or gender urges we have. their worldview is entirely different. it's based on seeking an ideal godly life based around a monogamous union between a man and a woman, having children and raising them in that same ideology.
they think queer feelings are sinful. but they have a general view of anything outside of their ideology is sinful. sex before marriage, infidelity, divorce, polyamory, even perfectly consensual and open polyamory, porn, and so on.
given how utterly commonplace and unsurprising each time we hear about a prominent conservative christian doing something "sinful", it seems obvious they have plenty of urges to do things they consider sinful. the choice for them is suppress these urges to live a godly life. they understand perfectly well that we're reacting to something we feel inside that we have no control over, but they want us to choose to do what they consider to be the right thing, and who cares if it makes us unhappy.
so i simply think that it's trying to use a liberal argument to people who just don't see the world like that. and yes, i think it's a very lib argument. look at us poor people who have this unfortunate condition but you have to be nice to us because it's not our fault.
i am queer. i am trans. i am intersex. these things are an intrinsic part of me, and i choose to embrace them. it's true there is no place for me in normal society. i couldn't pretend to be one of them if i wanted to. but why the hell would i want to be a part of a society that won't accept those cool and important parts of me, not to mention all of the evil shit it's build upon. it is of course unfortunate that makes life harder for me but i want my life. a queer life for me is loving who i want of course, but it's so much more than that as well. it's rejecting the heteropatriarchal norms of cishet society in the way i live and relate to others.
to conclude this comment which accidentally turned into an essay (sorry), i simply don't think it works. if we want conservative christians to accept us we need to target their beliefs about the family, and the concept of sin in general. unless we can change that, we're not going to make any progress with them.
These people are such fucking losers. I'm sinning and corrupting your children while I'm at it.
Cultural revolution against kkkhristianity when.
now pls
Cultural revolution against kkkristianity, amerikkkan four olds campaign
This is a perfect explanation of conservative christians, and how they view it. I have heard real people, in real life, compare "acting out" being gay with their "struggle" with porn. That's how these people view being gay/trans/anything outside of cishet monogamy. Something gross and wrong you shouldn't engage with, ever. They are aware people "struggle with same sex attraction". What you get is "oh I struggle with sin too".
I'm not sure how you change their beliefs on sin/family. Obviously deconverting them would be super based and cool, but that seems like it'd have a low chance of success. Honestly I feel like a lot of these people are lost and not coming back.
yes most of these people are lost. some of them will reconsider their lives when their kid or someone close to them comes out, but just as often they reject that person or try to fix them.
the best thing i can think of to do is to reach those unfortunate enough to be the offspring of these people. specifically the cishet ones, and those queer and trans who reject those parts of themselves. not to make them queer as they love to accuse us of doing, but to share a queer worldview and politics with them. get them out of the conservative christian cult before it is too late for them.
because that is how they propagate. they groom their next generation. every accusation they make against us is an admission of guilt. we need to disrupt their methods of reproducing their sick, creepy cult and protect the kids from it. and let the old ones die off.
obviously the ones who are queer and trans need help of a different kind.
I don't think it matters if it's a choice or not. Like if someone chooses to be queer, why not, it shouldn't invalidate their identity. It also shouldn't matter for availability of healthcare. Like if a cis person can get gender affirming surgery/treatment just because they chose to, then why not trans people.
imo i don't think it's a choice but if it was i would pick being queer in a heartbeat
Samesies
I don't think it's a choice, people can be born queer (I was born outside the gender binary)
When I was a dumb bi teenager I thought that everyone was actually bi and consciously making the choice to be straight or gay. Like, it struck me as absurd that there would be people who were truly unattracted to an entire sex. The fact that I only pursued relationships with women despite my attractions meant that all straight people were making that same decision, and likewise gay people could choose not to be gay.
Anyways that was really fuckin stupid of me.
Have always thought it a bad argument for the reasons others have said. Like, I didn't think it was a choice, but if it was, I'd choose to be queer. Just thought I unfortunately wasn't.
I feel like choice isn’t an all or nothing thing. Repression has become less and less of an option over time. The repression cycles were becoming shorter and more intense. The choice to repress became harder to make and harder to follow through on, especially once I started experimenting. And that varies from person to person.
My brother was one of the “I’ve always known” people. He was throwing tantrums at age 3 about wearing dresses. He never had a choice to repress. I’m convinced that even physical abuse wouldn’t have stopped him. My parents never came close to that but it wasn’t like they nurtured his transness either. They fought tooth and nail to make their kid be a girl before they learned about trans people, and even then it took a long time for them to come to terms with it. Regardless, my brother didn’t “live as a girl” for more than a couple years of his life. He wouldn’t have it.
Me on the other hand, I didn’t even have a suspicion until my mid 20’s and I think if I didn’t have as supportive of a partner as I did, as well as r/chapotraphouse and later this place, I’d still be closeted even to myself. If I’d been born into a more conservative family, I’d probably be one of those over-the-top transphobes who are displacing a bunch of self-hatred. Essentially, I had more choices along my journey to get where I am. My brother was fighting for survival from the moment his brain was able to process gender. We had very different choices to make.