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Some 400 rockets were launched onto Israel on Tuesday night by Iran, The Jerusalem Post understands, following rocket alert sirens that blared throughout the country.

So far, 4 people were reportedly killed during the aerial attacks, and there have been two direct hits, one of which was in Tel Aviv.

Iran launched the wave of attacks after the IDF announced on Monday night that it had begun limited ground operations in Lebanon.

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[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I'm on the side that doesn't kill anyone.

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

I don't think there is one of those in this conflict.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Exactly my point.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Too controversial for reddit lol

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

The people that kill other people. They shouldn't do that.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Where did you learn this galaxy-brained level state craft?

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Here, of course.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Would you have either side capitulate? Would you come to the aid of a side that was attacked? When would you begin intervening?

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Why don't you just make your point? I made mine and it's killing is wrong.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

So, Warsaw ghetto uprising during WW2 when subjugated poles rose up and began killing their nazi prison guards. You would call this a both sides is wrong situation?

And if not, I see no reason for you not to consider the palastinians with the same ideals as that of the poles.

And if so, I respect your pacifism.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Why do I have to choose sides to believe that killing people is wrong?

I see your point with WWII, but that's not this situation. I would personally never kill anyone, it's against my ideals. No fire burns that hot inside me.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I get that, like I said, I respect the pacifism, but can you at least not accept the validity of self defence in the face of genocide? Even if you were to accept that you yourself never could bring yourself to that? I took don't believe I could kill a person over it, but I do not blame those who have been pushed to that point of that makes sense

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Self-defense, non-violence are clearly not the same thing as pacifism. I can agree to that. But then the view of victim can be awfully grey. And thank you for not being rude and trying to understand without judgement.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Don't give this bad faith actor the opportunity to claim they're anything more than the whataboutism troll that they are.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Great fantasy world you live in.

So if somebody does kill someone, we should not hold them accountable?

Or the victims should not seek justice, should not retaliate? Should wait for someone else to seek justice for them? When would you find yourself willing to intervene?

You don't support yourself or come off as rational, and can only plug your ears, bury your head in the sand and ignore the world we live in.

My point is you're ignorant or lying in bad faith.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Whoa, chill out. If you think I'm wrong for saying killing people is wrong, you need help. You could slice me limb from limb, but you can't stop violence with more violence.

If violence worked, why has this area been warring for so long?

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Remind me how they stopped Hitler.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Remind me how long the conflict in Israel/Palestine has been going on. More bombs doesn't seem to end it.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

I'll remind you, and myself, to not feed the trolls.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I think you'd be an unreliable ally at best and a coward towards anything that doesn't effect you personally.

If you were anything more than a voice on the Internet our relationship would be put to the wind.

I would love to see your evidence of any non-violent society existing for any period of time. I don't need to hack you limb from limb to stop violence, I also don't believe violence has a single ignition point, and it's obvious you do

Kumbaya yourself under the Russian Pontoon bridge you crept from under you faithless troll.

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify killing people in your mind

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

My point is you're being deliberately naive and if you thought for more than 2 seconds you'd find yourself supporting interventionism.

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