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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Pili@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

Translation:

My personal opinion, for those who are interested, is that these two instances (Hexbear and Lemmygrad) are filled with what we call here nazbols, tankies, or even left-wing fascists.

They are primarily authoritarians who like to call themselves leftist, but use the same tools, have the same political vision, the same organization, and politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges.

I found it tolerable to “do nothing” as long as they stayed in their corners, but I had somewhat forgotten that an authoritarian remains an authoritarian and that the only place they deserve is down a well, not forgetting to strike the hands that try to escape with a big stick.

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

anti authority until it comes to the authority to throw people down wells

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

We just don't pretend that we don't believe in the use of force.

To the average lib, "anti-authoritarianism" means they follow the state department line on who is good and bad. us-foreign-policy

They love force when it is employed against the right people, even if they claim to "disagree" with the methods.

[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 month ago

even if they claim to “disagree” with the methods.

Nah, they don't even pretend. Just watch them talk about "terrorists". Liberals unsurprisingly have a full on statist view of violence. Their violence to protect property is legitimate and all other violence is illegitimate.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

"terrorism" is a great term to explain how they think, too. The meaning of "Terrorism" in actual use is very literally "organized violence I disagree with". The type, purpose, goals, intent, and targets of the violence are utterly irrelevant. it doesn't matter if it's harsh language or thermonuclear bombs. All that's needed for something to be labelled terrorism is that the speaker believes the perpetrators are an organized group and that they disagrree with teh violnce. Fascinating stuff.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

"Authoritarian" is a fascinating word because it really does just mean "other group that I think are bad". That's it. It has no other meaning. There's no definition that distinguishes "authoritarian" organizations from "Non-authoritarian" organization except the speakers relationship to a group they disagree with (or have been thrown out of for being a wrecker).

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