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My personal opinion, for those who are interested, is that these two instances (Hexbear and Lemmygrad) are filled with what we call here nazbols, tankies, or even left-wing fascists.

They are primarily authoritarians who like to call themselves leftist, but use the same tools, have the same political vision, the same organization, and politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges.

I found it tolerable to “do nothing” as long as they stayed in their corners, but I had somewhat forgotten that an authoritarian remains an authoritarian and that the only place they deserve is down a well, not forgetting to strike the hands that try to escape with a big stick.

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 81 points 1 month ago

The French when you call out their neo colonialism...

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 65 points 1 month ago

hitting the translate button on a french tweet is either the missing page of colombus or a maoist

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

Now I want to see Maoist Standard French, haha

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[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 60 points 1 month ago

The french when Haiti stops paying reparations to Paris.

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Le wokisme est le vrai fascisme :( les fascistes noirs et rouges ont volé mes esclaves :(((

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago
[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 79 points 1 month ago

gotta love the Fr*nch talking like this meanwhile their country threw peaceful protestors out of airplanes. that was 62 years ago, today they shoot African kids then beat up the ones that protest against the killing

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago

Yeah and they still to this day support the kingdom of morocco's colonization of the western sahara along with the us and isntreal.

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just saw that thread like "aren't the frogs whinging right now that they're getting dragged for being colonizing bullet-stops?"

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[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago

politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges

at a certain point it just stops being historical illiteracy and becomes outright bad faith

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Leftists" who never read theory and live in the Global North inevitably side with Empire and Colonialism, and see people pushing for national liberation and revolution as dangerous to them personally. Anansi is the premier example of this, to the point of death threats against Communists.

Let's analyze this.

My personal opinion, for those who are interested, is that these two instances (Hexbear and Lemmygrad) are filled with what we call here nazbols, tankies, or even left-wing fascists.

Extremely serious claims (among the ridiculous like the idea that there could be a "left-wing fascism), let's see how they justify it.

They are primarily authoritarians who like to call themselves leftist, but use the same tools, have the same political vision, the same organization, and politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges.

Primarily "authoritarians?" Who forms their political ideology around supporting use of authority, and not based on analysis of material conditions and who modern structures serve? This claim is left unsupported as though it is natural and obvious, as though people decide to be "authoritarian" by siding against Imperialism and colonialism, seeking power from siding with the people with less power. It's nonsense.

Secondly, there is a claim of using the "same tools," as fascists, which is false. Communists are revolutionary, fascists work with the establishment. Communists support democracy via Democratic Centralism, fascists crush democracy. Communists are internationalists, fascists are nationalists. Communists support violence against oppressors as a tool of liberation, fascists support violence against the oppressed as a tool of submission. It's further nonsense.

Finally, the idea that it is the Communists siding with fascists, and not the liberals and Social Democrats siding with the facsists against the Communists, is entirely absurd and historically revisionist. From the SPD siding against the KPD and with the NSDAP, to any major historical current, Communists have sided against the fascists.

Anansi, read Blackshirts and Reds. You fundamentally have no idea what Communism and Fascism are, who the Communists and Fascists serve, and their adversarial relationship. This clouds your entire worldview.

I found it tolerable to “do nothing” as long as they stayed in their corners, but I had somewhat forgotten that an authoritarian remains an authoritarian and that the only place they deserve is down a well, not forgetting to strike the hands that try to escape with a big stick.

Ending it with a call to violence against Communists, a time-honored tradition amongst fascists. In context, Anansi was projecting their own tendencies towards authoritarianism and fascism on the antifascist Communists. Shocker!

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago

Anansi is the premier example of this, to the point of death threats against Communists.

He is a disgrace to the name 'Anansi' frankly. I hope that's a white frenchman; because if there's even a lick of melanin on them? Here's what I see:

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Standard frog, or comprador? A mystery for the ages. Would be fitting for the French to steal from the Akan people, as the British did.

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[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck what I said before: I don't want the Sahel to kick France out of the motherland.

I WANT THE ALLIANCE OF SAHEL STATES TO INVADE FRANCE AND BURN IT TO THE FUCKING GROUND.

Not a solitary square kilometer of land should be left untouched. I dream of a Black Sherman, from Mali, or Burkina Faso, or Niger, or hell even Chad or another country that's yet to join the alliance-- I dream of this man, driving a fucking tank over the rubble that used to be the Eiffel Tower. I dream of a Black Sherman, immolating every colonizing Boer who ever fixed their faces to joke about the motherland's failures of nation building. A million Charlie Hebdos on those frog-assed crackers is not enough.

(And it's super-cute how Camus told on his entire people; 'you cosign millions of deaths' you tellin me millions of frogs talk shit on the motherland? Betttttttttt)

Death to France. Death to Spain. Death to Portugal. Death to Britain. Death to every Nordic country. Death to Amerika. Death to every settler that ever benefited from chattel slavery and colonialism, past and present.

packwatch france-cool

EDIT: ALSO, ALSO; how the fuck can one Amerikan Black them possibly call the entirety of the Alliance of Sahel States to action, to violence? Explain to me how you frog-assed cacs think that's possible. Do you think I'm Ibrahim Traoré in the flesh? Do you think I am Julius Malema? Do you think I'm the second coming of Sankara? Much as I'd love to renounce my citizenship and move to Burkina Faso, I can't even afford the exit tax, never mind the flight out. How I'm supposed to make this real? Juche necromancy?

i-cant

Here's the difference between us and jlai: I want y'all Carthage'd for all you've done over hundreds of years to not just the motherland but its diaspora. For centuries of ongoing malfeasance. You could run up on your leaders today, end it all, divest all ties, and I'd embrace you as brothers; but I'm not that naive. You, on the other hand, want us beaten and incarcerated because we hurt your fragile-assed feelings LAST WEEK. Death to the settler; especially the ignorant ones that can't wrap their minds around how more than one western power built its fortunes off the back of the slave trade and colonialism, both classical and modern.

Vous crackers, êtes les choses les plus méprisables que j'aie jamais vues; et je ne prie que pour que malheur soit sur vous et sur la lignée qui vous suivra.

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't understand why they keep linking to your original comment as if you said something unhinged. I'm french myself and I agreed with what you said:

  • Yes, France should stop occupying the Sahel

  • Yes, France should give back all the gold it stole from Africa

Anansi and Camus keep saying that they are leftists, but leftists are anti-colonial, so what does it make them if they disagree with that?

Honestly, if the Lemmy userbase wasn't that small, it wouldn't surprise me that jlailu is a DGSI operation to stop french people from going too far left and actually start threatening the geopolitical interests of the french bourgeoisie, because the things those guy say really don't add up with who they say they are.

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Update:

These brainless fascist morons want to report the site to whatever the fuck "Pharos" is (probably their equivalent of the SS - YEP literally the fucking SS) because they're angry at the france-cool emoji i-cant

Imagine calling yourselves "leftists" while throwing a hissy fit and threatening to report some obscure website to the fascists bastards directly arming the genocide in gaza because we have an emoji of your precious imperialist symbol burning.

Shout out to whoever https://lemmy.world/u/soumerd_removedataire is what a legend.

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh my, they actually want to report the communists to the regime.

It turns out jlai.lu never left Vichy France. They completely dropped the leftist mask.

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

Fucking called it; nazis to the fucking marrow.

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[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

Anansi and Camus keep saying that they are leftists, but leftists are anti-colonial, so what does it make them if they disagree with what you said?

Pfffff. Some leftists. The only 'left' about them is the side of their bodies they wear their collaborator-assed armbands on.

Here's the thing about crackers, regardless of the country they (illegitimately) occupy: calling out their plunder is always considered the highest faux-pas. These crackers like to feign erudition and high-road moralism at all times; pointing out the fact that even the lowest pirate or buccaneer has more of a code of honor about them than what global crackery could ever muster might as well be an open declaration of war.

[-] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago
[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

If there's any people on this earth that I hate as much as I hate white Amerikans if not more? It's the fucking French. At least I don't have to live under their thumb; but the motherland does. I want those frogs to fuckin pay for it; the exact same way I want white Amerika to pay for it

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[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 61 points 1 month ago

historically tend to ally with “official” fascists

Historically its always liberals who allied with fascists. 'First they came for communists' and all.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago

et ont tendance politiquement et historiquement à s’allier aux fascistes “officiels” dès qu’un mouvement réellement de gauche révolutionnaire émerge.

Says the frog from the country that immediately capitulated to the fascists and reorganized itself into a fascist ally state in ww2

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh look another lemmy bluefash dipshit outright lying about our political orientation to win brownie points with other neoconservative dipshits

The fantasy worldbuilding they construct about us is funny in an ironic sense tho

As always their accusations are always confessions

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

anti authority until it comes to the authority to throw people down wells

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[-] RNAi@hexbear.net 53 points 1 month ago

left wing fascists

Tbf, we do have socdems around

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 1 month ago

They are primarily authoritarians who like to call themselves leftist, but use the same tools, have the same political vision, the same organization, and politically and historically tend to ally with “official” fascists as soon as a truly revolutionary leftist movement emerges.

That's the galactic range projection, herr Noske

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 1 month ago

Is this even gaslighting or just pure fantasy? Any time "MAGA communists" (who it sounds like this person is referring to, although their brain seems to be smashed potatoes incapable of thought) are brought up they get instantly shot down as the grifting, disingenuous pieces of trash that they are. Also, there's like 4 of them.

If you're gonna try these lies... try harder? I guess? Or don't?

Also.......... French. Come on, guy. If you're French, speaking French, maybe also just don't do this. Extra layer of embarrassment.

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago

What do we even do that's so authoritarian? Respect people or your post is removed? OMG AUTHORITARIAN TANKIES WONT LET ME MIS GENDER PEOPLE OMMGGGGGGGGG JUST LIKE NAZI RUSSIA oooaaaaaaauhhh

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

Damn they're not even gonna hide the projection huh

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[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 month ago

French continues to be a waste of time.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ohohoho, baguette du fromage! Nononon! Le ribbit ribbit!

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[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago
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[-] Ossay@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Historically-speaking anansi tend to associate closely with extremely young people and wear an open hair-on-your-chest-BHL shirt

damn you can write any thing with "historically-speaking" before it and it becomes true!

[-] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

Aaaaaah, the french!

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Weren't French the ones that allied with actual fascists? lol c'est toujours d'Europe occidentale et ses maudit gens qui deviennent fasciste en plein tout des temps.

[-] KimJongGoku@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Les tankies et le wokisme, such a beautiful language

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[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Dragon age veilguard just came out. You don't need to make up fantasy i-cant Damn nerd. You'll do fucking nothing i-cant

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