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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

nationalist land grab

Is that what you actually think this is? Russia, famously lacking land.

If your "defence of democracy" requires replacing a democratically elected government with a nazi puppet regime in a violent coup, supporting that regime as it commits 8 years of terrorism against its minorities, and forcing it to kidnap old men to the front lines to keep the profitable meat grinder going...maybe you're not actually doing anti imperialism? Just a thought. Like when the swastikas came out and the genocide in Palestine kicked off, you should have realized we're the baddies, and baddies lie.

But epistemology aside, why bother from a practical standpoint? The war is over. Anything sent over at this stage is either going to the scrap heap or a military warehouse in the Russian Federation. Also lol, you will not be scaling up domestic weapon production to any meaningful degree, because we, the US, blew up Europe's pipeline and ate it's energy sector, and now Volkswagen can't even keep making it's cute little nazi cars.

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

The point is not gain of land for Russia but removing land from another state, as a punitive measure for trying to get away from russian influence. This is also not the first time it is happening. Because of how nationalist Putin's supporters base has become over time, he chose to use small invasions like 2008 invasion of Georgia as a tool to increase his domestic popularity. This parallels 1999 false flag bombings and response in form of second Chechen war and 2014 invasion of Donbas. In all these cases, as well as for two first weeks of 2022 war, approval rating of Putin's government soared which was exactly the point the entire time. Because of how much of that comes from nationalists, he can't back off because he'd come across as weak and lose support, he can't advance much faster because he's physically unable to, and his best bet is this kind of slow grind like we see now. Any western military aid will make it harder, so of course russian influence operations are directed against it, and you know that too

Also you will not be scaling up domestic weapon production to any meaningful degree

Speak for yourself. Orbital ATK buys european explosives, we have scaled up weapons manufacture in France, Germany, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Czechia and few others, there are new Rheinmetall plants in Ukraine too.

Ukrainians don't lack resolve. In 2022, something like 85% (iirc) said that fight should go on if nuclear weapons were used by Russia. Even now 80%-ish don't think that any territorial concessions should take place in any peace agreement. They have some of their own defense industry, lots of things (other than mostly air defense, and parts of aircraft manufacture) we can do in Europe, even if it requires some scale up, then there's South Korean deliveries and few other things that still can happen.

Like when the swastikas came out and the genocide in Palestine kicked off, you should have realized we’re the baddies, and baddies lie.

who the fuck "we" is supposed to mean there? in middle east i wish everyone involved regime change, situation is fucked with any of current people in power staying in power. Put Netanyahu, Assad, Erdogan, Khamenei and their cabinets and top people from Hezbollah in Hague then we can talk. but it's severely off topic so maybe don't

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

Love to see a Westerner demanding regime change in Arab countries and calling other people imperialists.

Didn't realize George W Bush was computer literate enough to use a reddit clone.

[-] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Put Netanyahu, Assad, Erdogan, Khamenei and their cabinets and top people from Hezbollah in Hague then we can talk.

So what you’re saying is Assad must go? who-must-go

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

in middle east i wish everyone involved regime change, situation is fucked with any of current people in power staying in power. Put Netanyahu, Assad, Erdogan, Khamenei and their cabinets and top people from Hezbollah in Hague then we can talk.

Great man theory doesn't stop being great man theory if you add "and their cabinets" after.

At some point you need to engage with the problem of why things are the way they are, and the answer isn't "The bad guy is in charge (and his cabinet)"

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The point is not gain of land for Russia but removing land from another state, as a punitive measure for trying to get away from russian influence

I started laughing here and havent stopped yet. Your explanation for the historical developments of the last few years are so stupid, so hilariously, irretrievably movie-brained in their simplicity and ignorance of material incentives, and every time they completely fall through you rubes fail to learn anything.

How many times has the Russian military "been on the verge of collapse"? "Run out of shells"? "Run out of soldiers"? How many more big offensives full of terrified conscripts with guns at their backs have to grind themselves uselessly to paste before you death cultists get it through your heads that this shit is nothing but a national, generational suicide bombing? Just one more doomed advance, bro. Surely the righteousness of our (inherently superior, somehow) troops will make up for inadequade tactics, nonexistent diplomacy, grim manpower shortages and staggering logistical disparities.

You credulous liberal dipshits stink up every social sphere with smug ignorance expecting to be welcomed, and then when people push back against your unpromted chauvinistic, fight-to-the-last-Ukranian bullshit, you can only whine and complain about some tankie brigading conspiracy. Anything but your dumb ass having been refuted in the marketplace of ideas.