What news sources do you follow with which you generally disagree? (lemmy.world)

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[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Oh interesting. I always thought the Daily Mail was more of a tabloid with like topless girls on page three or whatever. Am I confusing it with something else? Or is it both?

And fully agree with you on the Guardian.

[-] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

It is a tabloid. And although I don't agree with some of their stances, I find the criticism it'll get from UK sections of Lemmy or Reddit are quite knee jerk and over the top. I don't think any of the main UK tabloids do page 3 topless anymore. The sports ones maybe?

Typically they report stories with a simplified language style, and tend to sensationalise some language. Though this seems to be far from as bad as how it's sometimes made out. Not to set the bar too low or anything, but here are a few articles grabbed at random from their frontpage:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14141587/Catherine-paralysed-teenager-driver-whod-just-filmed-phone-steering-knees-smashed-car-heartbreaking-interview-says-just-want-able-hug-son-again.html

Personal story of women paralysed by hit by a teen driver who was texting / videoing / driving dangerously. The article focuses on her family and her suffering. The conviction of the perpetrator is handled quite matter of factly. Nothing is generalised, young drivers arent made out to be villains in any way.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14141941/gregg-wallace-accused-groping-women-masterchef-winner-reported.html?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile

Piece on continued allegations against Gregg Wallace. All allegations are attributed to specific unnamed sources. All are taken credibly. Defence of Wallace / brushing things away appears entirely absent. There's one quote of a friend saying it's not like him, everything else in the article explains how he made lots of people uncomfortable / assaulted / or was a creep. It quotes specifically what was said / done with respect to racism allegations without taking any particular delight in including that information.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14110103/colorado-springs-teen-ashley-scott-dies-bullied-school.html?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile

American 14 year old girl shoots self because of cyber bullying, culprits not caught. Despite the girl being a cheerleader, gymnast and surfer amongst other things the article is tasteful, celebrates her accomplishments and there are no what you might call 'creepy' shots of her doing these activities.

That's just a few. It's all just..I don't know.. pretty uninteresting to me. But I read it to see what slice of the world that their readers are getting. I think when certain groups trounce the DM as worthless trash (which it may well be in some cases) that doesn't ring at all true with people reading the likes of the above and it only serves to deepen the divides present in this country.

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