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This time one of vegans decided to teach us all about eggs, honey and bees.

Apparently bees are "imprisoned" and pollination is not comparable to keeping bees ๐Ÿ˜‚

You have to imprison and exploit chickens and bees for those 2 things. Pollination is no way comparable.

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[โ€“] psud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think you'll have many people disagree that cramped and caged egg farms are cruel

Backyard chickens have a pretty good life

Paddock raised chickens (where they are assessed by the animal protection agency) have a pretty good life (but they don't get the insects and mice the backyard chooks get)

So how can you say eggs are bad based on some eggs being bad? Some bees are badly treated too, you know.

[โ€“] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because there are over 300 hens laying over 90 billion eggs each year, and the number of ethically raised hens or the number of eggs they produce isn't within three decimal places of the numbers rounded off of those figures. I know several people that raise their own chickens for eggs, and I would imagine most people doing it are animal lovers like them. But that's never going to replace the eggs at the grocery store.

Honey production is also largely factory farmed, but humane treatment of bees doesn't require the same amount of space or cost to produce honey. I'm sure there are examples of honey bees being abused, but the egg industry is built on and designed around making animal abuse palatable.

[โ€“] psud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So all eggs are bad because the majority of eggs are bad. I guess logic is overrated. I guess that means that all water is salty because most water is ocean water.

[โ€“] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, I feel like I was fairly clear about this. Statistically, all grocery store eggs are farmed using inhumane treatment of birds. That doesn't make the eggs bad. Some people don't think animal cruelty is bad at all. I'm not here to tell you how to be a good person.

People raising chickens in their backyard also aren't distributing their eggs to supermarkets. If you were an alien trying to squeegie water from the surface of the Earth like you're zesting a lemon, then yes you should expect to get saltwater.