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Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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[–] Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I've been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm kinda done with them. Anyone have any suggestions for a mail provider? I'm not yet willing to self-host that.

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I've been happy with mailbox.org. I left proton after the boot licking. I had been a paying customer for years.

[–] jayemar@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

I just signed up for mailbox.org, let's see how this goes

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But are they on Mastodon? This is a very important factor for my purchasing decision.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

If all you need is mail, Tuta.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Posteo unfortunately doesn't support custom domains.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, for a reason. You have to register with a name and an address to obtain/buy a custom domain at a third party. Your identity could be traced back via this. This is against their very strict and consistent 'zero knowledge' policy.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmm I don't agree. You can always sign up using a foreign mail provider with a domain privacy service.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Could you break this down in how that works?

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. I register a domain using a service in a country outside of the EU (since Posteo is German).
  2. I also apply a "privacy protection" service, which means my data won't be visible in the public whois (the domain will be officially registered by the privacy service that I use).
  3. I sign up to Posteo and configure my third-party domain.

This means Posteo doesn't know anything about me, and even if the police raids Posteo they can't find who I am.

Of course they could, in theory, find out who I am, but that means going to the provider that I used to sign up for my domain, which may be on the other side of the planet outside of German police jurisdiction.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks 🙏, but what you describe is a theoretical option, right? Posteo doesn't offer to integrate such a custom domain afaik - but please correct me if I'm wrong! Do you use Posteo with a custom domain?

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, of course not. That's why I'm thinking of migrating to another service that supports external domains, such as Mailbox.org

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[–] azalty@jlai.lu 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's sad, I really like their UI

If you're afraid of self-hosting, https://mailcow.email/ is pretty great and easy to setup for that if you want to go to this adventure, else, Tuta would be their main competitor but I don't really like their UI

[–] tibi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

While not exactly privacy focused, I've been using zoho for a while. Really happy with it. I distrust most of the ones that sell privacy as their main thing, because email is not designed to be private.

[–] JBrickelt963@jlai.lu 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've been using Tuta Mail for over 5 years.