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[–] Australis13@fedia.io 228 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It should be blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention that the "Department of Government Efficiency" isn't really about efficiency.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 129 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just like the "ministry of truth" isn't about the truth.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And now the "environmental protection agency" is about extracting profit at the expense of the environment

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago

Environmental Plundering Agency

[–] elvith@feddit.org 40 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Remember, they're talking about efficiency all day long, but they're not mentioning effectivity with a single word.

Efficiency is how fast/cheap/ressource-less you can get something done. Effectivity is if you're even doing the right thing at all.

You can be super efficient, but still not be effective by doing something, so....

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

I mean we can just say they aren't about efficiency because they don't research anything before they start making cuts it's simply I don't like USAID let's gut it, I don't like the SSA so let's gut it.

They know what they're doing even if Trump somehow gets the boot we're looking at probably 50 years or more to get back our world position if they don't fuck our economy up so badly it's effectively impossible to comeback.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Effectivity is if you’re even doing the right thing at all.

Not exactly. It's more about whether or not you've accomplished the thing you set out to do, irrespective of resources and irrespective of "right" or "wrong".

So in this case, if DOGE's actual goal is the dismantling of the administrative state (literally spelled out in Project 2025), then I would say that they've been very effective.

They don't seem to care about the efficiency aspect.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

They just use the word efficiency because it sounds good. Its not like they actually care about any of what you said.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To their credit they're destroying government to pave the way for oligarchy very efficiently

[–] TheObviousSolution@kbin.melroy.org 83 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They are already an oligarchy, they are paving the way for an authoritarian dictatorship now.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Does it seem stupid only to me to destroy the environment they thrived in?

[–] nickwitha_k 30 points 3 days ago

They are not smart. They are just pathologically greedy people born to wealth.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

The thing is that the environment they thrive in just isn't sustainable.

Food & water scarcity is going to really hurt in 20 years time.

Trump doesn't care because he will be long dead. He just likes signing executive orders because it demonstrates how powerful he is.

Musk knows that in troubled times the wealthy are held accountable. Billionaires will only be able to exist in a dystopian hellscape.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They know a climate apocalypse is coming, so they all have doomsday bunkers and shit. They see themselves as the future neo-feudal rulers of whatever remains.

If the population is culled in some way or another, prior to said climate apocalypse, then maybe it can be mitigated or averted. And they see themselves as the future neo-feudal rules of whatever remains.

This is how they think. Some of them are just preparing for the former. Others are actively trying to bring about the latter.

I saw someone here a while back refer to it as "Immortan Joe fantasies" if you're familiar with Mad Max: Fury Road.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's the TSA of efficiency

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It makes the government more efficient at increasing waste, fraud, and abuse perhaps.

(Judging by the downvotes, it seems some people think DOGE actually decreases waste?)