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Does Friendica for instances, have something like Facebook Messenger going on? What would be the best for real time communication on both phone and desktop?

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[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Messengers are the archetypal example of software that has to deal with the network effect. IMO we don't have the luxury of trying and using lots of FOSS messengers and never picking a winner. At some point there has to be only one left if we want anyone to use it.

The frontrunner candidate is Matrix.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wouldn't care if I had to use multiple messanger apps. There used to be a pc program that let you login to msn, irc, and yahoo messanger all at once and manage your accounts in one place.

[–] scroll_responsibly 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 10 hours ago

Holy moly, I didn't know that Pidgin is open-source! Maybe I'll reconsider it...

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, it was called Pidgin. But things become more complex when you add E2E encryption. The ideal destination is a single agreed protocol, just like one exists for things like telephones, the web, and email.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For group chat, I'd agree, but Matrix is awful for 1:1 chat. The encryption is a PITA, confusing, and, by now, I'm convinced it will always be.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sad if true. I don't see it being practical to tell people to use different apps depending on the number of interlocutors.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 8 hours ago

That's what it was supposed to solve, but in practice it's used very rarely because it requires running your own server for the puppets, and few people are going to do that.