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Western media have finally change course. They are now admitting that the much promoted Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed. In fact, the acknowledge that it never had a chance to win in the first place.

The Hill, the Washington Post and CNN now agree that the Ukrainian army will never achieve its aims.

western MSM has a rare encounter with reality!

That makes it difficult for the Biden administration to get Congress approval for $24 billion in additional 'aid' to Ukraine. It does not make sense to pay for a cause that is evidently lost.

b seems overly hopeful regarding the rationality of US congress, but i think hes right- why would we throw more money at them, US politicians have made it clear they do not support bringing Ukraine into NATO if they do not win this conflict. of course, US politicians are prone to lying and misleading

Nothing has come from the 'peace conference' which Saudi Arabia arranged on Ukraine's behalf

lol. lmao even. props to big dog MBS for trying

Despite the onslaught of bad news the Ukrainian army is still trying to take Russian positions in the south and east of Ukraine. But it simply does not have enough in men and material to break through the lines.

Even if they would manage to get a local breakthrough there are not enough reserves to push for the necessary follow up. Just one of the NATO trained brigades has still been held back. All others have been mauled in their various deployment zones.

nothing has changed it seems

In the northeast around Kupyansk the Russians have started their own offensive which has the Ukrainians on the run. Ukraine has ordered the evacuation of the area

But Kupyansk is a Russian city and people refuse to leave.

show this to the libs claiming Russians are committing genocide in the regions they capture. curious that these civilians are content with Russian occupation when you believe what western media claims

The Russian campaign is slowly speeding up. As the Ukrainian Strana.news reports (machine translation):

Also in Ukraine, it is recorded that from Kupyansk to Bakhmut, Russia has increased the number of attacks.

"Over the past month, the total number of attacks in the Kupyansk, Limansky and Bakhmut directions has grown significantly. In July, during the week there were 6-6.5 thousand attacks, during the last week-9 thousand attacks, " - said the representative of the National Guard Ruslan Muzychuk.

According to him, the Russian Federation does not experience "shell hunger".

Aviation is also actively used, and over the past few weeks, more than 50 air attacks have been taking place every day, and sometimes more than 80.

That is bad news for the Ukrainian side which lacks the reserves to counter the Russian onslaught. There are also less weapons coming in from the West. F-16 fighter jets will be delayed for another nine months due to training issues. Tanks and other material are in short supply.

these supply issues sure bode well for the west’s performance in WW3 sicko-hyper

Strana also report of an interview with a knowledgeable Ukrainian soldier (machine translation):

Continuing the topic of the situation at the front, an interesting interview was given by a Ukrainian sniper fighting near Bakhmut with the call sign "Grandfather". On the air of political scientist Yuri Romanenko, he was introduced as Konstantin Proshinsky (this is a pseudonym).

The fighter spoke in detail about his vision of the situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian army.

  1. Mobilization. In his opinion, it is conducted incorrectly. Recruits are sent to the front who have never been trained, and they are often over 50 years old and with a whole bunch of diseases.
  1. No rotation. The soldier says that "the same brigades" are fighting at the front, and people are not taken out of the front line for six months or more. Whereas by Western standards, they can be kept in a war zone for no more than three months.
  1. Behavior of mid-and high-level commanders. According to Proshinsky, many of them are trying to arrange a "mini-Stalingrad" on the positions, forcing them to go into frontal assaults on well-fortified Russian positions.
  1. The Russian Army began to fight better.
  1. Proshinsky believes that Russia has not yet used much of what it has against Ukraine.

The soldier thinks that the Russians will not move from their positions and that a stalemate peace like in Korea would be the end result.

UAF in real dire times— recruiting the elderly, poor logistics, engaging the enemy at inopportune times, and Russia has yet to waver

I believe that to be wrong. Russia's aim is to liberate at least the four regions that it has claimed for itself. For political reasons it can not stop before that is done.

Should the Ukraine continue to fight after that, Russia is likely to set new aims and take more land.

more editorializing, but it doesnt seem unreasonable. i thought Russia would stick to its original goal of Donetsk and Luhansk, but if Zaporizhzhia and Kherson are receptive to Russian governance, it would be foolish for Russia to give them up

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 104 points 1 year ago

Using a combined arms NATO style attack tactic for the counter offensive when Ukraine basically has no air force was certainly a very smart and good idea with no potential problems. Especially when attacking entrenched and mined Russian positions. Great idea from the NATO military commander failsons

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 102 points 1 year ago

I can only imagine the number of dead and wounded Ukrainian soldiers. This didn't need to happen.

My friend's Ukrainian husband just got out, but he's still in some sort of family visa limbo. He's story from the last two years is just trauma laden with trauma.

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

So much fucking senseless death and human tragedy just so the US Empire can stave off its encroaching decay a few years more.

rust-darkness

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

And the ironic part is, if anything, this whole event has only accelerated its demise.

[-] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Even more ironic that the supposed ruler of the empire can't even comprehend what's happening because he's a demented old fuck.

I mean Hitler was probably on as many drugs and zonked out like ol' Joe after Kursk 1943 (read "Blitzed", it's so great) but a dying empire sending 1,000s to their death in minefields or a braindead 80-year old zombie... that's gotta be a first, right?

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Even more ironic that the supposed ruler of the empire can't even comprehend what's happening because he's a demented old fuck.

putin is losing in iraq biden-rember

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

See also: the war on terror.

The MIC raked in the dough while the USA suffered several domestic setbacks that they still haven't recovered from. Good job, guyz!

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

The sick old man of the world.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Glad he got out. That's something, at least.

[-] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago

How do you know they don’t have an air force? Our F-35s are stealth fighters you’re not supposed to see them!

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 65 points 1 year ago
[-] Frank@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Jesus that's... This whole situation is fucking awful. : (

Put yeah, propaganda slamming head long in to reality.

Why leopards, though? Are there leopards in Ukraine?

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Leopard tanks were the wundwaffe of the month when the counteroffensyiv started.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Ahh, that'd do it.

[-] Ossay@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

they didn't even use smoke screens a lot of the time

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