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Top genocide scholars unanimous that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza: Dutch investigation (www.middleeasteye.net)
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A growing number of the world’s leading genocide scholars believe that Israel’s actions in Gaza constitute genocide, according to an investigation by Dutch newspaper NRC.

The paper interviewed seven renowned genocide researchers* from six countries - including Israel - all of whom described the Israeli campaign in Gaza as genocidal. Many said their peers in the field share this assessment.

“Contrary to public opinion, leading genocide researchers are surprisingly unanimous: the Netanyahu government, they say, is in that process - according to the majority, even in its final stages,” the investigation concluded. “That is why most researchers no longer speak only of 'genocidal violence', but of 'genocide'.”

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 89 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Article 2 of the Genocide Convention has 5 definitions of genocide, you only have to meet ONE for it to be considered a genocide.

Israel: Hold my beer!

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/genocide-conv-1948/article-2

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

✅ (a) Killing members of the group;

✅ (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

✅ (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

✅ (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

✅ (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hey, that’s Bingo!

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

According to the experts in the article, it’s determining the intent through observation of action that causes identification to be a spectrum, rather than pass/fail.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I mean, it should be immediately apparent to anyone who has been paying attention.

This doctor absolutely fucking nails it:

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/t%C3%AAte-%C3%A0-t%C3%AAte/20241029-us-doctor-claims-israeli-snipers-target-child-in-gaza-no-child-gets-shot-twice-by-mistakea

"The doctor went on to claim that Israeli snipers are deliberately shooting children in Gaza, citing his observation of two children who were shot twice. "No child gets shot twice by mistake," he said."

Here's the base problem... Israelis don't see Palestinians as innocent. They've said this repeatedly:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/israel-posts-video-saying-are-no-innocent-civilians-gaza-rcna157111

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For people who see others as just part of a Race or Ethnicity, their victims are not persons, just pieces of a race to take down.

The aggressor's mental dehumanization of their victims is what allows them to just exterminate them as if they were animals and one way to dehumanize them is to look at them as just pieces of a "bad" Race which needs to be removed/eliminated.

Genociders target "a Race" and want to destroy "a Race" - that's how the aggressors see the whole affair: as a fight of Races.

The victims, on the other hand, are individual human beings who suffer as only thinking and feeling human beings can suffer, not as pieces of "a Race", and their suffering would be exactly the same when done the same things no mater what thier Race.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah the Uyghur genocide would be (b) then?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

b, c, d, and e.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

any articles on d and e?

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

(d) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713

(e) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56454609

There are far more, but those two are already enough to prove the point.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 points 2 weeks ago

I always take a skeptical stance whenever it is Adrian Zenz who wrote the study (for d), and I'm looking at the study he made right now

Point e, though, seems to be truthful and shows what happens to the kids of parents sent to the reeducation camps

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Interesring thing to note: doing any and all of the above to people along politically ideological lines is not considered genocide. Millions of civilians have been exterminated because their politics were not national, ethnic, racial, or religious.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's interesting. When I was growing up I was told it had to meet all 5, and the reason for Canada's colonialism not being considered genocide is that it didn't meet all 5.

Of course we all know what Canada did to indigenous folks was actually a genocide but the government would still tell you otherwise. Either way they meet at least 4 of these. Whether you want to say it was deliberate or not I guess is up for debate but...

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, this definition didn't come about until 1948, I'm rusty on my Canadian history, but I'd assume the colonialism would have been before '48.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you want to be sad, read up on the Residential Schools.

1948 was 50 years before the last of those hellholes closed.

And yes, Canada has semi-officially recognized it as a cultural genocide. With actual genocide recognition passed by the House of Commons in 2022.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I had no idea about the official genocide recognition that's actually very good, thank you.