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What makes them possibly think that a youtuber with average 10M views per video and 15M subs need to take money from Hamas. They could've just ignore her, but they radicalized her instead, and probably another billion toddlers who watches her daily
isn't-real takes another L
Do you think it's the same strangeness that Republicans have? "Are you asking if Republicans are fascist?" Sure, but it reminds me of how it's not just that they should be able to be antisocial with impunity, we have to think they're cool for being hateful too. Like you have all this power and control, so why bother with what we think about it? Is it perhaps the very idea that the thing you're conserving sucks is an existential threat? Like you had to build it up in your head and commit a bunch of, if not physical, spiritual violence to be based in a system that turns out to suck?
I would say that all of these sorts of people would follow the same sort of idea, a kind of anti-dialectical materialism, not even "idealism" but a straight up denial of material reality and the idea of opposing viewpoints, because their ideas are so far removed from reality that even reality itself is seen as a threat to them.
I would say that US republicans are Fascist though, hell, I'd say most American liberals would be perfectly fine living in the 4th Reich as long as it is presented to them in a way that suits their sensibilities. But I also have a very low opinion of America, so I am quite biased.
I was making a bit of a joke "are you saying Republicans are fascist" to which one could go "well, clearly, duh, thanks for the piercing insight WDYMP"
I guess a salient question might be "what are they getting from believing in something so counter to reality that they couldn't get imagining a better world is possible?" Is it the giga distain for minorities? Do they lack education that liberates? Is it some kind of distinction from one's peers? Or is there some secret sauce?
I think they get some weird perverted sense of community that's otherwise lacking in our culture.
Yeah, I think this is it. It's the same reason people fall in with obviously harmful cults, or hang out with quote unquote "bad crowds." It gives a sense of community that they otherwise lacked.
I've never heard of a person who is socially well adjusted and has a strong support network of caring individuals falling into fascist beliefs, it's always someone at a low point in their life, someone who is desperate for a connection to others that they feel like they lack. Then fascists come along and tell them that (insert scapegoat here) is the reason they don't have that, and they'll happily believe it if it means they get a sense of community.