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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 96 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Trump..... Uses an MOAB in Afghanistan, used nuclear brinksmanship against north korea, just YESTERDAY mulls tactical nukes in Iran and libs wonder why those of us outside of the US would want nukes or some deterrent. Even your dems are bloodthirsty genocidal maniacs and a guy like trump or worse is one election away in a highly flawed democracy with racist gerrymandering...... And we should just trust this international "order". why-post-this These fuckers will lead us all into an abyss

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 33 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

To paraphrase a (obvious) point made by Will on Chapo recently, if you aren't under the aegis of NATO, the only thing a country can do to protect its sovereignty is to get nukes.

[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 34 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

and if you are under the aegis of NATO, how sovereign are you, really.

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think the only real "sovereign" NATO members (outside the United States) are France (they have their own nukes, have shown independence from NATO before and even left for a bit) and Turkey.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

here's a quick list of all the countries who get actual sovereignty in practice:

USA

France

Turkey

Israel

DPRK

Vietnam

Russia

China

Laos

India

Pakistan

Cuba (questionable due to the severity of the blockade)

Venezuela

Brazil

Nicaragua

Mexico (constantly contended by the US)

Alliance of Sahel States

Maybe Iran?

Maybe South Africa?

that's it!

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think this list is missing a few. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are most definitely sovereign, no question there. They are allied with the United States, sure, but they play both sides. Saudi Arabia is a member of BRICS and has a very good relationship with China. The UAE has an increasingly independent foreign policy, notably supporting a side in the Sudanese civil war actively opposed by the United States. Indonesia too is sovereign. Their decision to forbid nickel refining outside of Indonesia demonstrates this quite clearly. They're too big to be just a puppet. Finally I'd add Singapore, another "plays both sides" city state that is very savvy at protecting their own independence. You could potentially make a case for Malaysia as well, and Thailand (though these are weaker cases).

[–] jack@hexbear.net 9 points 6 hours ago

All reasonable additions! I'd considered the Gulf monarchies but not the others.

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 47 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

I honestly think the Dems would already have declared war

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 45 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Harris might have even carried out strikes at the same time that Israel did, to show how they're "joint partners against Iranian authoritarianism and terror" or whatever word salad the finest in the Democratic Party can produce

And who knows if that would have had a different ultimate result but it would be unquestionably worse than Israel alone FAing and now FOing while Trump sits back and says "Two weeks, folks! Mr Khamenei, very bad guy, we want him to surrender! He doesn't want to, but he will! Fordow! Our beautiful bombers, people are saying they're the biggest and best bombers the world has ever seen, just yesterday a handsome general walked up to me and said it! Very powerful! But I'm a nice guy, I'll give them two weeks!"

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 36 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The platform they approved (PDF) at the DNC last year attacked Trump from the right on Iran and insisted that Iran could develop nukes "in a matter of weeks." They criticized Trump for not bombing Iran:

In June 2019, when Iran shot down a U.S. surveillance aircraft operating in international airspace above the Straits of Hormuz, Trump responded by tweet and then abruptly called off any actual retaliation, causing confusion and concern among his own national security team.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 22 points 7 hours ago

Thank you this is something I was looking for but I forgot which specifically

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 31 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The same dems that brag about or roll their eyes at the mention of countless dead on iraq? I'm shocked

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That demon Albright and her "the price is worth it" tells you all you need to know about Dems and America

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

On children too. Thats insanity I saw libs on r3s3t3ra defend because they're too brainwashed. And those are the so called progressive ones. Irredeemable country.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 25 points 8 hours ago

i totally understand why Mao said all that stuff abt the atomic bomb now