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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 95 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, the American far-right unknowingly dismantling US global hegemony piece by piece is pretty sick

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

Between this and USAID I can't say I'm unhappy about it. Of course dismantling imperialism is a good thing, but I also don't understand. The republicans should be all about illegal invasions, bombing civilians, and installing puppet dictators, so they should love USAID and NATO, yet here we are. Is this just incompetence?

[–] ours@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Just when I warmed up to the idea that NATO was a necessary evil to counter Putin's worse evil.

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 1 points 18 minutes ago

It is but losing the traitor in the assembly is not a bad thing. Now if Europe could jailbreak all that American tech they have in their military gear too, that would be nice.

[–] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 24 minutes ago

It also is a necessity to keep the USA from going Putin... Trump wouldn't stop wanting to be a King. As a King he'd work on becoming the Emperor. As Caesar Donald the step to becoming the god emperor isn't that big...

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

they’re doing it very knowingly… they wrote an entire nearly 1000 page fucking document detailing exactly what they’re doing in excruciating detail.

the fascists == idiots trope needs to go bc that’s exactly what makes them dangerous. lots of these fuckers are quite intelligent and conniving. you should be weary.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

the fascists == idiots trope needs to go bc that’s exactly what makes them dangerous.

That plan doesn't work. It assumes that the rest of the world just sits back and takes their crap lying down which isn't happening. They genuinely think they can just take over Greenland and nothing would happen. I don't know if they're intelligent or not, but they're definitely delusional.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They’ve handily proven time and time again in recent memory how they can in fact just do things and the rest of the world will sit back and take it lying down, though. That’s the problem. Anyone who thinks it’s just an America issue or something like that grievously misunderstands the tenuous house of cards that the pax americana and era of modern peace is built upon. Realistically, how far are you willing to go to prevent fascism? Would you die for it? Would you crawl through the trenches in a land many seas away from home? Some people might say yes but realistically most Westerners and others would never dare give up their creature comforts. It’s not delusional to think the world can change in the way they suggest precisely because they’ve suggested it - that is the hallmark of the fascist movement and what ties their collective ethos together, a philosophy of domination in all aspects.

Idk in short, I agree that yeah these people are certainly morally bankrupt. Lots of them are delusional. Any group of people has some like that. That doesn’t mean we should strawman them. There’s lots of idiots and they might think the US could invade Greenland without causing an international crisis. Either fortunately or unfortunately, these aren’t the people saying that the US wants to own Greenland or that we should go to war with Iran, for example.

The people who control and run this movement are not delusional. They’re dangerous.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 9 points 6 hours ago

Oh yeah, they have a plan all right.

Now, the plan isn't any good and everyone gets screwed, even them.

But it is, technically speaking, a plan!

One goal was to increase defense burden-sharing with allies. but withdraw from NATO wasn't a project goal.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Oh, we're weary all right.

[–] biggerBear@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Wary, though I think we're all weary at this point as well.

[–] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 hours ago

i made the freudian slip originally before publishing the comment but decided to keep it in because it felt apt. lol