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what part of this is meant to be döner kebap? It refers to a style of cooking layers of ... meat , but let's assume it can be any layered protein, on a vertical spit, for a long period of time, shaving off the parts that have cooked from the outside inwards.
Tofu isn't meat, and I would love to know that you can do the rest of it in the style of a döner.
If you just said kebap, I wouldn't have minded so much, as that's more of a "grill"and you can certainly grill tofu no problem.
While "döner kebap" means spinning skewer in Turkish (I think?), it's internationally known as the name of a dish that originated in Berlin. This dish contains meat from said skewer, but also vegetables, particularly cabbage, and garlic/yoghurt sauce, in a turkish style flatbread.
A tofu version of said dish is what's being posted. This obviously doesn't involve a large spinning skewer or real meat, but its a variation on the dish so it makes sense to call it that.
NO IT ISN'T
Only ignorant germans claim those lies. Döner kebap has been named, eaten and sold in the ottoman empire for fucks sake. Yes, even in bread, it's called ekmek arası (döner kebap).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab#History
quoting the article you linked:
but it kinda doesn't matter where it was invented, point is that most people absolutely mean this dish when they say döner kebab.
It absolutely maters where it was invented, that's why things like the Geographical indications and traditional specialities in the European Union laws exist, and trying to erase the cultural origin of something is an attack of the actual originator of that culture.
Maybe it doesn't matter to you, because it's not your culture that's being raided by the same people that say horrible things about your culture.
Even though the actual origins are within turkey, I don't mind it if Armenians, Iranians, Arabs and Greeks claim that the döner is part of their cuisine. They themselves make it in their countries and when they migrate, and it's a part of their culture too, through being part of the ottoman empire; there's been cultural interchange and mingling between those peoples to a degree where it has become deserved.
There is no "Hans Döner" who grew up working in his dad's Kebab shop. German migrants do not set up independent kebab shops to survive in the country they immigrate to in order to escape persecution or economic troubles or whatever back home.
If you want to call that particular sandwich a "Berlin style Döner", sure , whatever. Döner is not a German invention, nor a part of german cuisine, since germans themselves do not make it, they just buy it.
Otherwise, fuck it, Frankfurters are a famous turkish invention. Pınar has been manufacturing quality sausages since 1985, and because I want it to be, that's where Frankfurters were invented.
EDIT : And another thing, there are dishes that are based on döner that are actually regionalisms that are new dishes than can actually be said to be from that country specifically.
Kapsolon is a döner dürüm (wrap) that has a fuckload of gouda/dutch cheese which is something we never do in turkey, and uses a dutch ingredient which makes it specifically a turkish-dutch fusion dish. Nothing in the berlin style döner is specifically german, so it cannot be called a german dish.
Man I don't really disagree with that but I do feel we kinda left the original point behind
which is what, OP doesn't know what a döner is, and made a probably good sandwich with turkish bread and a salad?