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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Just curious if kickstarter is in the wrong here or not. Because when it was Valve, lots of folks were losing their minds blaming Valve for capitulating to Stripe and Visa/MC.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The way you'd have heard them tell it, Valve folded like a cardboard box.

[–] Noja@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They did, they removed all content that Mastercard / Collective shout doesn't like.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And what was this material, still seems to be hentai on the store. This is basic shit that can be disprove immediately.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hint: it wasn't ALL adult content. Like they've already said.

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

These things are tricky, I would generally like to say the platforms and associated processors, hosting, etc should be neutral. However, there are plenty of things that are just plain bad for society if they get created which despite being massively unpopular might get enough niche support to be brought to existence given the chance.

It could be by law, decree of the platform, or vote of the users, but somebody has to have the ability to draw a line on what can be done in public, the broader consensus on the question the better though.

Edit: Curiosity since this seems to have irritated some people. Would you suggest that a platform not be regulated in some way if it where enabling the creation of exploitive and hateful content? Note that I didn't specify sexual content but rather things that can be bad for society.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The reason people are down voting you is you’ve created a who watches the watchers situation. Whose job is it to determine what’s bad for society? We’re already having that problem right now with the won’t you think of the children bullshit and people trying to get books out of libraries just as one for instance. Censorship is censorship and censorship is bad.

[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com -1 points 3 days ago

Which is why I say it's difficult but necessary at some point. As a thought experiment, take a list of things in a topic, in this case it was brought in as porn things because apparently the credit companies are prudish. Array out that list going from mundane safe hetro sex all the way to snuff films. Somewhere in there any given person would find 'their' line and perhaps a separate 'the' line which they see as acceptable to film and diseminate.

So who orders the list, who draws the line, and by who/how does it get enforced? To say all censorship is bad would imply that no line should be drawn. One can't just say it should be based on 'common sense' because I guarantee there are people who would think what's sensible to you is either too outlandish or tame out there.