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The article details she started working in her very early teens.
11 is not "teens".
Oh you don’t understand paragraphs, I see.
It doesn’t state that she started working at 14. By 14, she was a skilled laborer.
I'm just trying to figure out when she'd spent 15 years as a taxi driver, before the age of 26.
26-15=11
15+11=26
Did she start as a taxi driver at age 11, or did she not work as a taxi driver for 15 years? I'm just not understanding the timeline.
I think it was badly worded in the article, I believe she was a taxi driver at 15 years of age.
I think maybe "taxi driver" was her favorite job of the last 15 years. I agree that it's just badly worded in the article.
It’s just that the sentence before it was talking about the job she had at 14 so figured it was one after the next.
Yeah, but I can't imagine using a 15 year old as my confidant. Then again, adults were telling me about their woes over the phone (I had a job calling people to tell them where to show for a phone book distribution gig).
(edit: typo and formatting)
I imagine most conversations going along the lines of “so how long have you been driving for??” “Shouldn’t you be in school” etc
I think that's what they were trying to say, and it just got garbled.
That’s exactly what the article was saying.
I’m so glad that y’all debated whether she was lying about her jobs. Very worthy of all of our time here.
When did I ever say she was lying about her jobs? I said the timeline presented by the article didn't make sense because it didn't.
A writer in need of an editor is different than an interviewee telling lies.
And it’s the only part of the entire story that you felt was worthy of discussing.
This entire speculating thread just looks like ways to discredit the victim.
You jumped to insulting people's reading skills when they questioned something that was unclear in the article ("Oh you don’t understand paragraphs, I see.")
I responded because my numbers autism said "ah, I see. Velma doesn't get how the math doesn't math, let's make that clear so the world is less confusing."
If you'd just said "huh, yeah, the reporter could have worded that better" then this thread would have ended. Instead I think that you don't care that the math doesn't math and you're viewing attempts to figure out what the reporter meant the convey as attempts to call the interviewee a liar. I hadn't even considered that the interviewee might have been wrong about her life experience until you suggested it--it seems more likely that the reporter's article was unclear, especially since the "15 years" bit wasn't a direct quote.
I didn't comment on anything else in the article because I didn't think I had much to contribute on anything else. My stance is so obvious that what would I say on that that hasn't already been said? Here: "yeah, that's fucked up. I'm glad she's no longer incarcerated. The USAian system has problems. This happened before the overturn of Roe v Wade‽ I can imagine how much worse a similar situation would be handled now".
You misread the article and immediately jumped to conclusions about her work history.
I'm allowed to feel annoyed that a group of men decided it was more important to nitpick a woman's story than to feel sympathy or outrage at her mistreatment.
It's not an obvious stance and it's laughable when men assert this. If it was an obvious stance, we'd be working harder to eliminate these types of egregious and horrific treatments of women.
Instead there's more comments about the odd pacing of a brief retelling of the victim's work history.
Shame.
I don't see how I misread the article. I believe the article is unclear and the bit about the taxi job is open to interpretation. I did not jump to conclusions about the interviewee's work history. I stated how I interpreted what the article says about her work history. The article may or may not accurately reflect reality and may or may not accurately reflect the interviewee's telling of her work history.
I never said you weren't allowed to feel a certain way. I stated what you did and how that affected the thread's trajectory. Do you think I said you weren't allowed to feel a certain way? I don't get why you're bringing it up.
And pardon me for assuming that the stance of most of the people who responded to this post was the obvious stance.
Clarification: are you more upset because you think I'm a man? I have been on the internet since the 90s and, as we all know {joke} there were no girls on the internet in the 90s.
I read that section of the article and wasn’t confused about her general retelling of her work history and favorite jobs. The idea that only people above 18 work is preposterous. Especially when the article detailed that she was already a skilled laborer by the age of 14.
No, I was simply stating how I felt about it because I think it’s a damn shame that the real story here got obfuscated by a hyper focus on a small detail.
Apologies on the assumption, Lemmy is so overwhelmingly male and misogynistic that it’s easy to miss the rare woman here.
Fair.
I was really only confused about the "Her favorite job was working as a taxi driver for 15 years." Everything else made sense, that just felt like a bad phrasing on the reporter's part. Other jobs, I was replacing shingles on my family's buildings at 15, folding boxes under the table for a local bakery before then.
No hard feelings? TBH, I should have disengaged sooner because I felt myself going down the "maybe if I overexplain my stance they'll agree with me and everyone'll be happy" rabbit hole, when I should have figured out that we were talking past each other. Like, it felt so... yeah, no, the events in the article are messed up. Clearly if I feel that so strongly everyone else can read my mind and knows that without me saying anything [spoiler alert: people can't read my mind]. Then I fixated on the detail of the date and you maybe thought that was all anyone in the thread was taking away from the article, which didn't help anything.
No hard feelings. Thank you for taking the time to see where I am coming from.
She was 26 when she was arrested. The article doesn’t say how old she was when she was recounting her work experiences to the journalist.
If she was 26 in 2018 then she is around 34 now. 34-16 =18 years to be a taxi driver. -2 years in prison She could have done 15 years if she had been a taxi driver from 17-now, but who hires 17 year olds as taxi drivers?
Bro have you ever traveled in America? Go to any airport in the country and you will see 15-20 local "taxi" services, a quarter of which run cash/venmo only.
What does this have to do with anything?
It means that she wasn't lying and it's plausible that she was driving a taxi before the age of 18.
Sure, you believe whatever you need to reinforce your preexisting beliefs.
I've been on Lemmy long enough to be aware of the pervasive anti-women culture here.
You couldn't even express a single word of sympathy. Just nitpicking and casting her as untrustworthy.
Sorry I didnt see the rule where expressing sypmathy was required before pointing something out. Ill make sure to send thoughts and prayers first at all times in the future.
Wish you spent half this energy for the actual bad people in this story instead of trying to prove that the victim lied about her work history.
I spent 2 seconds pointing out bad reporting by cnn, im not trying to attack her. That detail adds nothing to the story but doubt, why include it?
Now I did waste more time trying to explaing gradeschool math to someone who is blindly defending someone they dont know from imagined attacks.
It was the only point in the entire story that you felt was worthy of discussion. Why is that?
As I said, that line stuck out to me as bad reporting because all it does is cast doubt and doesn't help the story. You seem to have convinced yourself that I am the enemy and that I am calling her a liar, but that is not the case.
You missed the point of the article/story. You ignored this woman's plight to nitpick about her employment years.
You derailed the conversation about women being charged for miscarriages to complain about a small error.
What world do you live in where every comment must express you point of view preemptively to not be considered an attack?
I’m allowed to be annoyed at a group of men who feel it’s more important to criticize a woman’s story than to feel sympathy or outrage about her mistreatment.