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US justice department ‘forever’ bars IRS from auditing Trump’s past tax returns
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It's first and foremost the people in charge of the party at fault for losing the election. They are the ones that need to change, not the voters.
This is why I see it as Israeli talking points. It's basically saying "Kamala was right, it's the voters that have to learn to stomach genocide, Israel calling the shots and the kleptocracy in general".
The dems are supposed to be the good guys, yet they saw the low low bar that was trump and decided to aim just above it, and missed. We should be vocal about their fuck up, not giving them a pass. You are defending their actions by scapegoating them away.
So you're directly saying ignorance/zealotry is acceptable.
Absolutely zero people say or think this, and you making it up here shows you cannot be taken seriously. I do not believe you voted for Kamala. That's just your way of trying to obtain credibility.
I'm saying the pro genocide zealotry coming from politicians is the actual problem. Being against genocide is far from ignorance.
I understand pragmatism as much as the next guy, and I did take that route, but you will not catch me dead saying the ones that drew the line at genocide are somehow in the wrong.
The party has to change and they were wrong to push the genocide. It's as easy as that, and you are pushing against that change and encouraging their behavior.
And ya, people don't say it outright but that's exactly what it implies.
There will never be a world in which I can agree that people sacrificing everyone's future, while literally making worse the issue they claim to be prioritizing, is acceptable. It's myopic and idiotic to do that, and saying so implies nothing more than exactly that.
I'm inclined to believe that at least half the people spreading this message aren't that stupid though, but rather bad actors, oftentimes foreign-paid, bad actors.
Literally what the dems did last election, and they orchestrated the situation instead of just reacting to it.
I blame the corrupt politicians instead of ordinary folks making a bad decision, especially when the "bad" decision is the actual moral one (still bad in the scope of things, just morally better). You do you bro.
It only would have been moral if even the simplest of minds couldn't have foreseen what their action would lead to. They could have but refused to, thereby accepting full culpability.
Interesting that when a small group of people do something, it's horrifying but if millions do it you're okay with it.
It's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. You choose to blame the guy that was stuck for making the wrong decision instead of the person that literally put the rock there.
The dems could have built a nice little path.
Those millions chose wrong but the small group was actually in charge of designing the choice. And through bribes, apathy and pure hatred, they decided to design the shittiest choice they could come up with. This wasn't something forced on them like it was on the voters, and worse, they were the ones forcing it on the voters.
There's a chaine of events here and you are choosing to ignore it.
No, that's what protest voters did and I will always hate them for doing that. I will never, like you, defend that willful ignorance. The only excuse for it would be stupidity and that doesn't do anything for me or anyone else.
The protest voters came after the dems turned an election into a circus with a side of genocide.
That's what I mean by chaine of events, the protest voters ignoring etc and making mistakes came after the dems deliberate actions.
Doesn't make the voter behavior any less shitty
Nope, it doesn't. That being said, there's a group of people that essentially paid the dems to lose last election, and they don't want to be seen as the problem that they are.
Blaming and shaming voters only helps that group. It doesn't help us, it doesn't help democracy, it doesn't help the party. Alienating isn't the best way to make them vote either. Tbh, it shouldn't be up to them to cave first when it's about genocide in any case.
It's misspent energy and detracts from the pressure that the party should be facing. It's as I said, a scapegoat built to avoid having to change.
Taking up for those douches doesn't help anything either. There's basically nothing we can do besides be informed and vote like we are. Which brings us back to my original point. If protests worked on this scale, they probably would have already. America is basically fucked and we fucked ourselves. I expect politicians to suck. But I don't expect millions to choose country-suicide. Anything over 10% voting for this (or not against it) is extremely concerning. We're SO far over that mark. And it would never happen if people were as educated as we think we are. All of this makes more sense when you realize some huge amount of adults are functionally illiterate. It's so fucking sad and enraging how badly we've all been failed and failed ourselves.