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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

To me, the case of India and Saudi Arabia are the strangest examples of climate denial, because they are going to be the most uninhabitable and keep buying/selling. Like they think they can outrun global warming through fossil accelerated development. Australia too, because they are drowning in solar power, but still hold onto coal. russia at least makes sense, they just want to become warmer and unlock new land, even if the whole place will turn into a giant swamp.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is a poorly written / researched opinion piece which does not accurately reflect India's policy towards fossil fuels.

I follow Indian politics fairly closely and I was suprised to see the assertion that Modi has denied climate change for years especially since India has been fairly aggressive at expanding renewable usage since it is a matter of energy independence for them. Unlike Saudi Arabia, India imports essentially all of its oil and has very little to none domestically.

The often referred to quote from the speech he gave was ""Climate has not changed. We have changed. Our habits have changed." In the rest of the speech he goes on to explain further that the environment isn't changing on its own; human behavior, lifestyle shifts, and a lack of harmony with nature are driving environmental destruction. The argument he was making recognized anthropogenic (human-caused) climate change; it wasn't a denial of it.

From 2025 to 2026 India added 55+ GW of non-fossil fuel capacity and is currently the world's third largest market for installed renewable energy.

Modi was vocal about combatting climate change at COP26, committing India to a "Net Zero" emissions target by 2070 and pledged that India would source 50% of its energy capacity from non-fossil fuel sources by 2030.

India also recently had its fast breeder Thorium reactor reach criticality and is planning to expand capacity to meet 15% of domestic energy demand by 2047.

There's a lot of reasons not to like Modi but this is a misrepresentation of his and India's current stance on climate change.

Yes, India still burns coal. No country in history has developed without coal. It is cheap, abundant and accessible domestically. Renewables are still too inefficient and pricey to meet the needs of a rapidly developing nation robustly. Oil is a foreign import for India, which comes with its own costs and geopolitical complexity. Energy has been crucial to India pulling 30 million people out of poverty domestically per year and abandoning coal at this stage would likely mean decreasing that number.

Its a complicated situation, but what is very clear is India takes climate change very seriously and has clear intention to expand renewable usage over the next several decades. For India it's not only a matter of domestic climate but energy independence also.

[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

This should be a top-level comment so that others have a chance to educate themselves and form their opinions better.

There is lot to criticise about Modi like rising unemployment, systemic dismembering of journalism, whataboutism, and so much more!

But twisting the words of his speech (that is more than a decade old now) is just pathetic and immediately makes anyone pedalling that narrative foolish. It is even worse when a journalist does it, since fact checking is paramount.

[–] ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] M1nds3nd@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

I've heard that one before.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

Saudi Arabia makes sense if you think the royal family intends to move overseas and let the populace die

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

and MODI wants datacenters in the country apparently. which is why rubio went there.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Australia is mostly ruined in the top 3/4. The bottom section where most of the people live will be relatively okay.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

The >50⁰C heat waves in Melbourne when the wind is northwesterly in summer aren't going to be fun. By the end of the century there could be occasional fatal wet bulb temperatures.

(the current record is 46⁰C in 2009, but extremes get more extreme)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

the outback is expanding i heard.

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When sea levels rise enough all the coastal cities will be gone

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Elevation levels are not the same across the world.

At an extreme 10 metre rise, nearly all of Bangladesh will be under water while Melbourne and Sydney will only lose a small bit of land.