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[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm not flexing. I'm saying most Americans are incredibly stupid. I'm saying a full third of us are outright bigot fascists that actively want to say slurs in public and hate crime minorities. I'm saying another full third of us (you're in this group) are too stupid or self absorbed to acknowledge that third party and non voters directly contribute to republicans getting elected. Of the remaining third, most don't vote in Dem primaries so we have no progressive condition. I'm saying that the American Federal government is largely representative of the average American that is too stupid or mean to just vote in their own best interest (which yes for my entire life has meant explicitly voting democrat in every election). You are the American that has earned and deserves Trump. Reevaluate your priorities.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Whats a "D next to a candidates name even mean anymore? Besides limping a system along which doesnt care about any of my issues and sends my taxes to a nazi theocratic foreign country to shoot little starving kids in the head for sport. We need to keep all this going in its current form you are saying, cant allow it to change or fall apart or we're ...bad voters?

Well I'll be sure to hustle to the polls and make sure I cast my vote for all the "D" branded genociders. Blue no matter who right. Because that will get this system working for me for a change, right? That will get the bribe-taking DNC centrists who have been utterly ignoring the voters to care about their voters again? if we just shut up, sit down, demand nothing, and do what we're told?

edit: Yeah thats right, downvote and run away. Theres at least a shred of honesty in your lack of response, if not your original posting.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

You're either an idiot or an accelerationist and either way don't deserve to be taken seriously.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I voted for Harris, try again. I am at least willing to recognize where her campaign could have done better, because like you, I recognize we need those voters who went 3rd party (or stayed at home) in order to win. Unlike you, I hold leadership accountable for failing to inspire an electorate large enough to win.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Register if needed to vote in the primaries and get everyone you know to do that too and always vote for progressives in the primaries. That's how you hold leadership accountable, by gaining the actual power to replace it. The democratic party is not a coalition of leftists and progressives. It's a big tent party filled with everyone from nazi adjacent to the closest thing to a socialist American politics can muster. If all us leftists and progressives actually fuckin voted and otherwise engaged in the electoral process we'd have an actual opposition party. Till then the political reality is that every vote that isn't for a democrat is explicitly for maga, and repeating fox news criticisms of democrats helps elect republicans.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I vote in the primaries but last I checked there was no primary for harris to be POTUS in the last election cycle. And no, repeating valid criticisms of democrats does not automatically mean you are helping Republicans win. To think that requires a staggering amount of cynicism towards voters that one wonders why you are even trying to reason with said voters

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There was, I voted in it, Harris name was on it and everything. There you go with the fox news points again.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Why do you think people should have been satisfied with the "primaries" the DNC held when the majority of voters rejected the candidate? What do you think of Biden's promise to only run for a single term?

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do you think people should have been satisfied with the "primaries" the DNC held

Because the other candidate is an unqualified fucking pedophile conman on a dementia riddled revenge tour you fucking fuck and you shouldn't be too fucking stupid to vote for your own best interests. Jesus fuck.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The observation that Americans elected a pedophile is just more evidence that the DNC kneecapped the primary. When the establishment gets every alternative to not run it's not a primary that offers a choice. But you are here saying there was a choice.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No it's evidence the average American is an ignorant belligerent bigot willing to shit their pants so others have to smell it. The system exists by the will of the people and I'd say Americans are largely represented in the white house right now.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like democracy is working as intended and you're blaming leftists for being a more effective communicator than Harris.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm blaming everyone that didn't vote for democrats in every election for the last thirty years because it's their fault. Hell, last fifty years.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yet you blame me, not because I voted wrong, but because you think I can actually convince someone you weren't able to convince yourself.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I blame you for blaming shit on the DNC and not also telling people to primary with progressives and fuckin leftist tea party the dems because that's the only way we save the country without full on societal collapse. I don't want societal collapse because with climate change we won't rebuild society, we'll just mostly all die.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I do blame thr DNC for being stupid but I also tell my family and friends to vote in the primaries and to vote democrat if they can. So maybe stop lashing out at those who do vote as you say but also have more faith in the people they choose to engage with.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh so there were primaries and you fuckin lied above. Tracks. Arms getting tired lugging those goal posts around? The democratic party comprised of registered democrats picked the Harris ticket, and yes, since the whole fuckin succession works the way it does it was with the understanding that Harris would likely have to step in because Biden was fuckin old. Why are you so fuckin obsessed with Biden and Harris? Why are you blaming democrats for the republican destruction of this country? Are you an accelerationist? Because if you're not, and you're also not fucking dumb as fuck, then you well know that getting democrats in office and primarying democrats with progressives is literally the only way we come back from this. It's already almost too late and then it's a republicunt dictatorship until total collapse. So unless you want a fuck ton of people to die including yourself get people to vote for progressive democrats in literally every election.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I don't blame dems for what the GOP is doing, I blame the dems for not winning elections. Why is it easier for you to accuse me of being an accelerationist than to accept that I don't want to see dems keep losing? The opposite of anger is understanding and all I am getting from you is anger.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The opposite of anger is understanding

That is meaningless nonsense pseudo intellectual bullshit.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's also good parenting advice, which might come in handy in your quest to infantilize voters.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not infantilizing them, I'm blaming them for looking at Trump and Harris and not seeing enough of a difference to ensure Harris won, because that's what happened and it's all our fault.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh no, some overposting lemmy guy's "blame". Man do I feel "slammed". I'm going to change my behavior to whatever it is you demand right now. No one can argue with your electoral success or how you've gotten the dems to care about the issues the voters care about. Your work speaks for itself. *Respect.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Well if progressives and leftists actually fuckin voted... So many assholes here just abdicating all responsibility for their own lack of civic engagement like none of you have any agency. Fuckin pathetic.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and it's all our fault.

I actually agree with you on that one. Though I am finding i believe that less as time goes on.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Nah if voting was compulsory and people were even minimally educated on the positions of the people they're voting for we'd have drastic positive change.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Blame your rhetoric for convincing idiots to not vote democrat in every election. The voters and non voters own this. We the fuckin people, but go ahead and absolve yourself from responsibility while doing republicans work for them.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You actually think i have that much sway with voters? Then maybe you should be asking me how to achieve such influence for yourself so we can stop losing. But I don't have such power, I am simply observing how the majority of Americans feel about things and that reality makes you upset so you blame the messenger.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stop repeating republican rhetoric for starters. But you're having trouble there.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know, you finally convinced me. Thank you for opening my eyes.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Clearly. Now go on and continue discouraging democratic voters like you have been.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'll make a great servant in the upcoming fascist system. Don't ever think for yourself or champion any issues specifically, align with whatever the rich donors of your party tell you to align with. Heres a gun soldier! Go shoot those kids!

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Behold an example of American reading comprehension. Build better strawmen. Jesus Christ lemmy makes reddit seem halfway intelligent.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No no, you convinced me that the only reason Harris lost is because people are dumb. I hope that motivates you to continue to tell others how dumb they are.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago

Also racist, can't forget the racist.