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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If we're really committed to not going by solar time, everything should be UTC.

[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm an American, and I refuse to switch to metric time.

[–] mech@feddit.org 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

OK then keep using your 12 Football innings per school shooting.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, how else would you say "a quarter past eight", like "15 centimeters past eight"? It makes no sense!

[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago
[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

[Runs away hissing] 2026-06-05T18:25:00+00:00

[–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

This thread has been cleansed

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actual metric time was a fiasco I've always been fascinated by

Thanks for posting this. That was an interesting read.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why not? What's wrong with having a day composed of 1000 chroners, or 1 kilochroner which can be divided into either 10 centichroners or 100 decachroners?

We can even divide each chroner into 1000 millichroners, or for scientific purposes, a million microchroners, a billion nanochroners, or a trillion picochroners.

So much more sense than 60 seconds times 60 minutes times 24 hours. What even is a second, anyway? When was it defined as a constant, by whom, and against what reference? It's completely arbitrary, I tell you!

And then when you extend that to 7 days, times 4 to 4.43 weeks, times 12 months before you finally get into decimals (decades, centuries, millenia, etc.), it's insanity!

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a true believer in SI units, nonetheless:

When was it [the "second", the smallest unit of time-measure under insanity-rules for unit hierarchy] defined as a constant, by whom, and against what reference?

I have to notice, as a long-time student of being-a-person - for ~most folks, a "second" is reasonably close to the length of a single heartbeat. It's imprecise (badly depending on lots of stuff), and so maybe I'm just finding coincidence that has nothing to do with anything.

BUT if we're talkin bout earliest references for attempting to "measure" ongoing time, I mean, look no further, fellow probable-human-with-heartbeat!

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

60 bpm is about typical for a resting heart rate, I suppose. So that could make sense.

About as much sense as positing that humans use decimal numeral systems (ignoring whatever the fuck the Romans used) because they have ten fingers.

No way to really confirm, but it seems a likely guess.

I wonder if Parmenides talks about it at all...

Also, how did they even standardize this before digital clocks? Like did the first clock maker tell all his apprentices "This clock ticks every second. One tick is one second. Every clock you make must tick at exactly the same rate."

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Easy-peasy, first clock-maker set their metronome to 60 bpm, fiddled with the fiddly bits on the clock until no one could hear a difference. Said to apprentices, "see?"

[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now that that's going away maybe we'll finally have metric time. The age of the chroner is upon us!

[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh you're right, it's becoming permanent. Normal time is going away.

What an altered dimension we've found ourselves in. Poor Harambe... 😔

[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where are you that they are doing that? That's not the case where I am.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US.

There's a bill fresh out of committee that would put (most of) us on permanent DST. It's got some bipartisan support and the Angry Orange has said he's in favor of it.

https://www.factcheck.org/2026/06/trumps-push-to-make-daylight-saving-time-permanent/

[–] Spooge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Something that most Americans want and will benefit everyone? Then this will definitely happen!

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I've made this argument so many times. It just makes things so much easier when dealing internationally

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

If we're not going by solar time we should go with TAI. Fuck leap seconds.

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

but I live in EST land so therefore it is the best option