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Wait so was the 2024 election rigged? After being told for 4 years that the 2020 election was the most secure election ever and that there was no evidence whatsoever of election fraud, people are now saying that there was massive fraud in the 2024 election?
Oh come on now... you cannot say that! Or the fact that people claimed the Bush, Obama, Obama, Trump, Biden, and Trump elections were rigged since the 2000s! Just because the candidate we did not want to win won does not mean we should not accept it when the opposition wins.
Seriously though, gerrymandering is a real issue across the states and incumbent parties often gerrymanders to keep the opposition of power. In a way, this is election rigging, but until we amend the constitution, this cannot be fixed. Luckily... if enough of us flips in one election cycle, they cannot gerrymander fast enough to stop actual fair elections. This is the reason I am an Independent voter.
Even though I could not vote, I supported GOP President Bush in the first half of the 2000s and only stopped supporting him due to the Patriot Act, Democrat President Obama in the second half of the 2000s and the first half of the 2010s and only stopped supporting him due to him lifting the sanctions on tyrannical regimes (although, the ACA is a good thing), the GOP President Trump in the second half of the 2010s mostly because I did not like the fact Hillary said she would continue Obama's foreign policy, and the Democrat President Biden in the first half of the 2020s and stopped supporting him due to the botched withdrawl at Afghanistan that gave terrorists American weapons and got our soldiers and military dogs killed. Then in 2024 when I could finally vote, I supported Constitution Party Candidate Terry because Trump was mid, I did not like that the Democrat Party pulled a fast one and forced Biden out when he won the primaries for Kamala without a new primary, I did not like the Libertarian Party Candidate Oliver due to his stances, and I did not like the 'Vaccines causes Autism!' Independent Party Candidate RFK Jr. as that is stupid. I have ZERO party loyalty. I am not a partisan voter. If people are hostile to me, it only pushes me away from their candidate and party. Same with if they do stupid stuff.
I'm not saying there was rigging in the election process (disenfranchisement, voter intimidation, Musk bribing votes, and other pre-election fuckery by Republicans aside), but there was without a doubt more evidence of possible corruption in 2024 than 2020. No matter how hard the GOP tried for years, there was never any substantial corruption discovered, only a bunch of Republicans voting multiple times or from other states.
What likely happened, because this is the GOP strategy, is they projected corruption for 4+ years so that when they did do it successfully, the messaging is exactly what you're doing right now. "Dems said so corruption happened and now they're saying it did when it allegedly happened to them." It's a bullshit argument fueled by ignorance and/or projection
That sure is a conspiracy theory.
It's a theory that there was election rigging. It's a fact that there's more evidence supporting election fuckery in 2024 than 2020.
It definitely isn’t a fact. The extra like 8 million votes for Biden in 2020 that disappeared in 2024 sure looks mighty suspicious. All the videos of ballot boxes being loaded up with hundreds of votes by a single person in 2020 sure look mighty suspicious. The videos of people sitting in their car filling out dozens of mail in voting slips look very suspicious. The sudden surge in votes for democrats right at the end of counts, getting just enough to win seemingly out of nowhere, look very odd.
What evidence is there of election rigging for 2024?
Doesn’t need to be rigged if you’ve got enough voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering.
any reasonable person would call that "rigged"
I get your point, but I was referring to literally altering the tally of votes.
Everything else is cheating and not a fair election, by the way I use “rigged” is restricted to counting (or not counting) votes.
i think we might just disagree on semantics and agree in the actual concept.
agreed
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The rigging is happening right in front of us, and they made it legal.
The biggest gerrymandered states are the blue ones….
This source has 4 of the top 10 worst gerrymandered states as democratic. The 10 Worst Gerrymandered States in the Country https://share.google/XE96wys3SqmtrawJC
This source clearly outlines how and why Republican gerrymandering is more significant than democrats. Extreme Maps | Brennan Center for Justice https://share.google/N9KLkX2LAVJQ3lFIb Try again with some sources next time.
Try again, but next time bring receipts so you don't look dumb.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/most-gerrymandered-states
Okay? That list is different than mine, but it still has 6/10 most gerrymandered states are republican controlled states.
Each state is not the same. The level of gerrymandering and the result it gives is different in terms of seats at the table. The blue states gerrymandering all has a bigger effect than in the red ones.
No, it doesn't. This is dated, but since 2018, states have certainly not, as a whole, gerrymandered more in benefit of Democrats than Republicans.
Guys he put four periods in his ellipsis, I think he must be REALLY impatient that we don’t believe him with no evidence other than his own personal bias against democrats. I can feel hope beside himself with disbelief he must be that someone else in the world hasn’t been infected with alt-facts. I thought everyone loved Kool-Aid? WTH?
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/most-gerrymandered-states
By your own source Republicans have 2 of the top 3, and 6 of the top 10, but you're claiming blue ones are the most prevalent?
Yes, the blue ones have more effect due to their population.
And I shit bars of gold and sell them at local flea markets for discount prices!
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/most-gerrymandered-states
Yes, and all of this is because Lord Feltersnatch forced Texas to do it so California had to reciprocate. Don’t expect democrats to just sit there and get shit on by the traitorous republican’s! The Republican Party is nothing but a criminal organization now!
No, no, no....the Democrats must just unilaterally disarm, you see.
Actually I keep my booger hook much closer to the bang switch nowadays!