That, but I also don't want to go to sleep because (1) there is a strong association in my mind between "going to sleep" and endless feelings of frustration and (2) I've just started feeling like half a human, now that I've forced myself awake for more than 12 hours, and just because it's "late" you want me to try to go unconscious again instead of maybe getting at least SOMEthing done?!

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago

If I'm actually being productive at bed time, fsck it. I'll get back in sync later.

But, I think most of the time I stay up too late, I'm not actually accomplishing anything. I'm either playing games that I will enjoy just as much, maybe even more, if I practice good sleep hygiene. Or, I'm letting some recommendation algorithm drip-free me neurotransmitters, and that's not worth disrupting your sleep routine.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

they don't know what it's like in my sleep. THEY can go in there.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

I had a terrible sleep schedule for many many years. Then I got a night shift job. The discipline it took to swap my day and night and then swap it back was what I needed to maintain a solid sleeping schedule. I have for 5 years now. It really does improve every other facet of your life when you aren't living through sleep deprivation.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago

just go to sleep and ignore the republicans burning our country/world down

[–] AnchoriteMagus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

^^ This.

If 300mg of Trazadone every night doesn't fix my insomnia, I'm not sure how much going to bed at a set time or not using my phone in bed are going to help matters.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

While science is basically never absolute, and those bits of science aren't particularly strong, it's really worth a try.

Forgive me if you've already given it a try and know it doesn't work for you. That's unclear from your post, and not the vibe I get from it. I know not everything works for everyone.

Sleep hygiene does have a very strong correlation to life satisfaction. I really hope you can find the later, even if not via the former.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, already tried it, but thanks for your concern, unfederated friend.

I do the whole "No blue light after 10 / the bed exists only for sleep and sex / screen time management / etc etc etc".......still maybe 4 hours of shitty tossing and turning per night.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

yeah, same here. if i'm not both sleepy and in position to sleep at the start of my rem cycle, i'll be awake for the whole damn thing. and more awake for the next if i try to go to bed in the middle of it.

non 24 sleep cycles are fuuuuun. currently living in LA time and loafing in Lahore time.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220107-the-lost-medieval-habit-of-biphasic-sleep

sleep like the industrial revolution tells you too!

your life must revolve around your work