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[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 13 points 15 hours ago (4 children)
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Looking at the evidence, this was in October 2023. That was really before what IDF was about to do became clear, and the popular coverage was solely about October 7.

Question is what his take is after the context became more clear.

I'm not going to be overly judgemental over a pro Israel stance in October 2023.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 1 points 43 minutes ago

Ah yes, because Israel never did anything to Palestinians before october 7th.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Noooooo, don’t join the Dark Side, Mark!

[–] TaterTot@piefed.social 51 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Not that this makes it right, and his views are clearly uninformed (or at least under informed), but he signed that letter like 5 days after the October 7th attack.

A month later he replied "same here" to a tweet saying "I’m pro-Palestinian AND vehemently anti-Hamas. I’m also pro-Israel AND vehemently anti-Netanyahu.".

And several months later he tweeted "I fully support Gaza/Palestine. Despise Hamas."

While I would prefer he take a more hard lined stance, and there's a lot to be said about how taking a soft stance on a genocide might as well be the same as supporting it, I think it's still fair to say he's gone less "Dark Side" and more "Fall of the Rebublic era Jedi Master on the Council... uh... side".

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, i want to be given grace for my views as i still had (and obviously have) some learning to do so i'm giving him the same. he seems to be heading the right direction.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, there is no shame in being wrong. Choosing not to learn on the other hand. The fact that he's continuing to update his views as he learns more is the right action.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Right? Wrong but improving is way better than right but getting worse. Give it a few months, I know which one I'd rather have on my side.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's not as bad as it might appear at first glance.

In the website the sources seems to be from 2023, just after the october attacks.

At the time I felt the same way, but Israel just would not stop, so I gradualy changed opinion as I just saw more and more pointless violence and dispicable behavior from Israel.

[–] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip -1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm confused. What do you mean "would not stop"? Israel's response was genocidal mania from the beginning. What was the limit of collective punishment on civilians you were ready to support? Was it measured in weeks or in dead children?

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

There is so much shit going on these days, combine that with having to deal with a new, stressful job, that my thoughts were mostly:

Stupid idiots, Israel will go absolutely insane on you after this.


And I was right, the first few weeks, showed that my prediction was very accurate.

I did however expect that after a month or two, a stalemate would develop, and proper negotiations would start.

You know, like a normal conflict.


But Israel kept killing and destroying, far, far, far beyond the point where Palestine would be any sort of threat, to the point that it became completely absurd.

It felt like watching a strategy game being played, and Israel wiping out any trace of Palestine to win.


There was never a specific limit being reached that made me change my mind, it was a sense of how the retaliation became illogical from the point of view of achieving a normal victory, it went beyond that, far beyond that, that was when I flipped.


TL;DR:

I flipped once Israel's goals was shown to be illogical from a normal military response.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 2 points 6 hours ago

To those of us who were completely out of the loop about the Israel/Palestine conflict before 2023, which is most people, the first thing we heard about the entire thing was October 7. So, for a lot of us, the initial response to the conflict was "Why did Palestine do this!?" until shortly thereafter where we all found out why and went "Oh. Nevermind, go Palestine!"

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Would it kill you to be honest instead of posting shit without any context?

Christ, some of you lefties are worse than the goddamn republicans when it comes to thoughtless propaganda and groupthink.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Hehehe, I love being an evil leftie, forcing people to read and google stuff. 😈😈😈

You'll never catch me pushing minorities to commit suicide through online harassment like those goody-goody two shoes Righties do. 😈😈😈