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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 39 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure how I feel about this.

From my understanding the island wishes to stay part of the UK, but I don't know if historically that's because they colonized the fuck out of it.

Argentina is also kind of an asshole country, so is the UK. Both in their own way.

Argentina also played like absolute assholes. The UK is notorious for being assholes about football.

I guess I'll just say oof.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 36 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

There was no colonization.

The issue with the malvinas/Falklands is that there are no "historically rightful owners", since no one lived there when they were discovered by the British.

But it's also not as easy as "the British discovered, so it's theirs", because they just discovered and left. They didn't leave no settlement.

The islands have a complicated history, both sides have strong arguments in favor of themselves, there's no clear cut "rightful owner".

[–] adj16@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The British didn’t discover the islands - the French (and then the Spanish) did. But they won them after that, so your points are still good - just wanted to point this part out

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

To clarify, Britain didn’t “win” them. The previous occupants had abandoned it totally as it wasn’t worth much to them. When Britain arrived, it was desolate and abandoned with no prior claim. This was, by the way, some time before Argentina existed.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with this take. The claims are plausible from both sides but England obviously won the battle. The inhabitants being established are a result of the military positioning, so their votes will obviously be skewed. Not sure their votes are comparable to those of say native populations of other disputed territories (since there were none).

So I can understand why the Argentines feel aggrieved.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The Argentine claim is implausible. The Falklands were British before Argentina was created. Their reasoning is that it had been used by the Spanish, and so had now-Argentina, therefore dibs.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

Argentina gained independence from Spain on 25 May 1810

In 1840, the Falklands became a Crown colony and Scottish settlers subsequently established an official pastoral community.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Hm that's tough. I always like to think boundaries set by countries are bullshit anyway, but it is located closer to Argentina. Another comment says they both want it because the island comes with vast amount of fishing so economic reasons. And the UK probably put money forth to develop some sort of living situation on there.

[–] stark@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The US is closer to Greenland than Denmark is.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 56 minutes ago

But with that thought Canada is closer.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

The UK is the only one's who have ever invested on infrastructure. And it is all mostly to support the fishing industry. This is about money for the UK. The people who live there are descendants from people of all sort of places, because they were fishermen for a British fishing company. No wonder when asked, they prefer to be considered British. All Argentina has ever done on the island is bombing them.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

The UK has never profited from the islands. It has been a sinkhole of money.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Argentina also confined the townsfolk in makeshift prisons and blew up bridges.

[–] Tingle@lemmy.world -4 points 10 hours ago

To clarify, the ENGLISH are assholes about SPORT, not the UK, there are other cultures in there that are vastly different in their attitudes, it will be import to remember that when it comes to election time as well since you will find different parts of the UK will be voting in very different ways.