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I think that once snap is cut, there will be chaos and riots because millions of people will not have access to food.
Snap feeds 41 millions people or 12% of the population.
If they go a week or two without knowing where food is gonna come from then food Pantry's will dry up instantly and riots will happen.
I think the Democrats will stop the shutdown before then but shit is so chaotic rn that they can't do even a week without snap IMHO.
it's hard to predict how the dems will play this, but my read is that republicans have fucked the dog here and are dangerously close to actually eating this entire shutdown and all its consequences in terms of political capital.
polls-as-propaganda are trying hard to pitch this as a democrat led shutdown, but that's real hard for people to square with the GOP owning all 3 branches hard. especially with Trump's perennial victory lap and his insistence since the election that he is the undisputed leader with all the power.
but there's just enough BS to kinda play like dems are somehow responsible and have some hogs believe it.
in reality, senate GOP could immediately rewrite the rules as they have done before to nuke the filibuster and give their simple majority power to end the shut down. but i think they're afraid to, because it would reveal they had the power to end the shutdown all along (polls show deep dissatisfaction with shutdowns).
secondly, and more critically, it might not even end the shutdown because their party is so fractious. it took them forever to elect their own house speaker, and that's some low stakes BS compared to this.
so they've basically painted themselves into a corner and their only way out is to own up to it and take a big swing that might blow up in their faces.
so it seems like they are gonna stick with trying to hang it on dems, but as mentioned, that isn't really working so well despite their messaging discipline.
It is kind of surprising that the dems have finally started to show something resembling backbone here.
For like the millionth time it is indeed on the democrats to not actively fuck up an absolute layup that they could achieve with very little effort. What remains to be seen is how bad they want to fuck it up, and if anyone at any level of the party will move to stop it
From the reporting i've seen, Mike Johnson is not even trying to negotiate and neither is Trump. They think this is a win.
Maybe they're counting on food riots so they can finally send in the National Guard? Sorry to touch the lathe
Yeah, I get that, I'm just wondering why they haven't beefed it so far when precedent suggests that's exactly what they'd do.
I hadn't even thought of that angle, good point. Maybe they're finally getting too scared to be seen doing nothing? One can hope at least
Someone finally told them that they might get more in donations if they actually made a show of being the opposition
Even if it was the democrats shutdown, what do they have to lose? FUCK THEM UP! Drowning? Drag them down with you. Become such an obstruction that they have to beg and give you half your wants before even sitting at the negotiating table.
They go low, we go, uh, you know, the thing!