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I've never met either. Then again, I'm not in the US. A PhD is always done in conjunction with a job. And I don't mean waitressing, I mean your PhD work is incorporated in your job.
most phd stipends don't cover the cost of living. especially with the massive inflation of the past decade...
i gave up my PhD studies because my stipent was about $10,000 per year less than the basic cost of living. It was basically designed for wealthy people. and the employment opportunities were low paying and scarce. it made zero sense.
until i realize phd programs are largely designed for/by wealthy people and purposefully setup to exclude working-class people like myself. it was classism in action. didn't help how 'mortified' all my peers when they found out how i grew up...
That sounds better. My friend is working in their field, but the positions are set up knowing that they'll mostly be applied for by PhD students with masters degrees during their coursework, so they know they can pay like crap and they'll take it anyway. All my understanding of these systems come from the US way, so it's nice to know it's better elsewhere.