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I can't wait for the inevitable headline of "Ukraine surrenders unconditionally, no longer valid as state" to pop up in mainstream media and it finally shutting up all "pro-ukraine" activists🙄
"activists"
What do you gain from it ? Genuinely curious
What do the Ukranian citizens gain from the continuation of this war at the behest of Western imperial interests?
What do they gain from shelling Donbass for almost a decade before 2022?
This? www.busification.org/en
Wouldn't you fight if a foreign army walked over your land ? What justify invasion according to you ? I mean, even if Zelensky is not the best, does it really seems that worst compared to the current political system in Russia ? Or would you disagree that Putin is an authoritarian dictator ? Went on your website, pretty mild compared to the video from the abuse of Russian soldiers by their own mens.
My land? I do not own any land or country and do not wish so. Currently, western countries are owned and controlled by the capitalist class, so they can fight if they want.
Existential threat, like, for example, being non-western aligned and having your neighbor be part of the "eradicate and enslave the not-aligned" organisation aka NATO.
If Zelensky is not much different, then it should not matter what country takes control.
There is no disagreement, you are just wrong. He simply is not a dictator and people mainly listen to him because he has earned their trust.
Yeah i don't think any of that is happening in Russia right now. I am sure there is physical abuse in such strong and patriarchal hierarchies, but definitely not on the level of ripping away mentally disabled people and putting them in a suicide squad. All active russian soldiers are, i think at least, volunteers (in the liberal sense, monetary coercion invalidates pure volunteering in a communist sense i believe).
Not if my land is ruled by actual fascists, who are trying to ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine and banning the Russian language.
Oh I don't know, how about shelling and killing citizens of Donbass for years before 2022? When the coup happened in 2014, they knew what was up and chose to defect. Why can't you respect that?
He's a fucking fascist omfg. He's literally shaken hands with former-ISIS (now president of Syria) and Netanyahu. He wants Ukraine to be the "Greater Israel" of Europe. The AZOV battalion? All of the fascist imagery he's around? The support for Stepan Bandera? Does nothing trigger any alarms for you?
First of all, authoritarian is a thought-terminating cliché. And I support Russia critically because they play a progressive role in fighting against imperialism.
Haha holy fuck OK?? You are a fucking fascist. Downplaying the suffering of Ukrainians by the hands of their fascist government to satisfy your racist and hateful fantasy of Russia. Very fucking cool. TO THE LAST UKRAINIAN AM I RIGHT?
Well the Ukrainian people would gain from Ukraine ceasing to be a NATO proxy, neo-nazi-run military outpost that runs on kidnapping Ukrainians to force them to fight in a war that doesn't benefit them, so there is that.
Well, they were invaded.. But you said you can't wait, what do you gain from it ?
Invaded by NATO through the maidan coup, in a sense, yes.
I was more referring to the 3 days military operation. So, what do you think would come out positive for you ?
The american hegemony being weakened, while the axis of resistance (Russia, China, Iran, Democratic People's Republic of Korea etc.) gets stronger.
This, in turn, should allow for socialist revolutions to be much more possible in the world as the links of the imperialist chain have weakened.
This make sense. And what would be the endgoal ? A political system like the one in China, Russia, Iran or North Korea? While being aligned temporarily, they don't seems to promote the same ideal. Maybe the endgoal is more to have a socialist revolution that would create an entirely new system ?
Hopefully Russia will have a return to socialism at some point, yeah. Though I don't expect it to be easy.
But of the key anti-imperialist powers in the world, China appears to be the strongest in every way and it is run by a communist vanguard party. So that may help in terms of the peoples of non-socialist countries looking at China as a good example and going "wait a minute, this capitalism stuff is kind of a dead end, isn't it?" Comparatively, in post-WWII, the US was positioned extremely well due to its manufacturing base at the time, its connection to pre-existing colonialism, and largely being unmarred by the war while so many other countries were damaged by it, and so it was able to export capitalism as imperialism, both with violence (which it did prolifically) and with the appearance of prosperity attached to capitalism (which was somewhat deceptive, as it was a more situational prosperity than something arising out of capitalism intrinsically).
Now we are heading toward a path where that may flip in perspective. Where China is the manufacturing base of the world and, with the help of a socialist guiding hand, is able to show advanced cities and systems, while the US is still dragging its feet on public transportation and producing a mob boss style openly white supremacist president. China is also building mutually-beneficial relationships for a while now. Where the US influence declines, China will more be there offering an alternative - an alternative that is not coercive and "win-lose", but is instead "win-win". This will not on its own create revolutions, but it will help countries transition away from the exploitative dependent relationships of imperialism and toward self-determination. Making them more equipped to chart their own path, whether that is something explicitly communist or something more akin to Iran's anti-imperialist nationalism and promotion of regional independence from imperialism. But perhaps more importantly, make them more equipped to thrive as a people in day to day things that some of us take for granted, instead of being underdeveloped and exploited by imperialism.
I wanted to answer on your other answer, which was very interesting, but seems the thread was deleted, but I could not find any modlog :(
Btw. the "3 day" thing is from a US general. Russia never made any statements in that regard.