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The era of safe large protest in the US has gotta been shown to accomplish little by now right? The Iraq War had some of the largest protests ever for its time. The initial 2016 anti Trump riots were also huge. This no kings thing were massive. I get people are scared because American police are nuts and violent, but burn some shit down or something.
I think it's even worse because they undermine any protest that would burn shit down by scolding them. Why can't you be like that protest? And it creates people who will actively collaborate with the cops and grab a protester who is trying to start shit, they will hand you over to the police.
These people are being actively trained to demonstrate wrongly, and to undermine demonstration that does anything rightly. All they have demonstrated is the ineffectiveness of this type of demonstration.
It has to be viewed as electoral campaigning. This is an electoral rally using protest as a motivator, not a demonstration. The only goal they have is electoral.
Well-off white liberals, the primary organizers behind this, go to protests as social events and as a break from their military contractor jobs. It's no wonder they celebrated when SDPD called them good boys on twitter.
The few months of rioting after George Floyd's death got more reforms than the previous decade of peaceful protests every time someone was killed by police.
They didn't get any reforms at all. Almost everywhere, police funding went up. Riots are no more effective than peaceful marches.
Bad word choice on my part. I guess I meant consequences for Chauvin? Or at least it demonstrated it's possible to hold cops accountable. Obviously, there's a lot of murders by police that go unpunished. But the cops who beat up Rodney King, murdered Tamir Rice, murdered Eric Garner, and murdered Philando Castile never saw the inside of a cell. I think Chauvin would have walked if he killed Floyd in 2010 instead of 2020.