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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

at one point i saw a thread arguing about the "chinese century" memes...?

Do people think that these memes unironically mean everything will be fixed because of the "chinese century"?
Do people genuinely now think that it would be worse to live under Chinese hegemony than Amerikkkan hegemony, even if those were the two options? How is "won't save you" even close to as bad as "will actively murder you and then laugh and murder your children for 10 generations"?

I am still waiting for the mythical "Chinese imperialism" to manifest in any kind of interventionism or enforcement action. People really need to have some perspective.

[+] Marxism_Sympathizer@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Everyone, including the Palestinian resistance groups (though they want to reform the PLO), recognizes the PLO as the sole representatives of Palestinian statehood. China is unwilling to internationally oppose the consensus of the PLO under Fatah and all the Arab countries.
America enables this genocide to happen in the first place and enthusiastically does everything it can to promote and assist the murder of the Palestinian people.

These are apparently, according to some, equivalent in some way because they expected China to solve all the world's problems? It would be great if China had vetoed, but what was the basis/justification? It can't just be "in our opinion as the state of China, this is bad". They would have had to have been asked by a party involved for it to have made sense to veto the resolution, they're not the world police. Did Hamas actually ask China to veto it? Even if they had, could it have been done without shattering the tenuous idea of a unified Palestinian state? After all, since even Hamas consider the PLO to be (albeit corrupted) the representative of the Palestinian state, how could they (a faction of that state) ask a country to openly oppose the PLO in the UN?

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you could read this as them trying to pressure PA and the arab compradors to go with russia's plan.

I have no trouble seeing it this way.

or you could read it as them calling for a veto of the american plan if it came down to that.

This I'm more skeptical of. Like I said, this would amount to openly splitting the Palestinian state, which is something AFAIK Hamas has always put extreme effort into avoiding doing. On top of that, it's (IMO) nearly certain that a veto would not have prevented this from going forwards. It has the support of the Americans, all the Arab countries, and the PLO. It's going to happen. Even if it didn't, the only real important factor there related to the UN vote is the support of the Americans. AFAIK, the UN has never really stopped them from doing anything before. It wasn't going to start now.