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This has been cooking for a while, like since the alarms started getting sounded about an AI bubble; but I had a dream recently where the AI bubble popped, and we were all happy, and the industry really did bottom out, but then peter goddamned thiel ends up basically owning the entire market share, then buys up artistic supplychains and stores and shuts them down entirely to force people on the slop machine.

and reflecting on it, that's when i kinda came to the conclusion: that's a real ass possibility.

I think of the 2000s dot com bubble, levelled the landscape, and the companies that survived and the ones that emerged in its wake had staying power, and dominate the technological social landscape to a frankly dangerous degree

the money behind this AI shit is immense, and some of these guys are deranged enough to just force the matter, like who could even contest this?

I'd love to get talked down from this position if it's more unreasonable than i think but... yeah im kinda anxious about it now.

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[–] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Seeing the people embrace the slop is more bewildering. I saw AI generated star wars short about General Grevious's space shuttle crash. And the comments where full of the usual suspects saying "if disney doesn't want to make star wars movies anymore then we will make our own with AI :)".

It looked like utter shit with no story except what we all know from reading wookiepedia. But they don't care because all this pop culture is slop anyway and they detest anything slightly different from a 1930s serial.

Maybe I am having a smuglord moment, but don't we already have cameras, drawing tablets, scanners, krita, gimp, kdenlive, hydrogen, audacious, blender3D etc. for making new non-slop anyway? A Bezos-Theil trade federation blocking physical art supplies seems really unlikely anyway and people have made more with less.

The issue is that they practically own our attention with extremely low effort addictive apps where people devote hours to video clips they don't even enjoy. Alot more people can and should make real art in the face of this.

But also if there is to be an American AI winner, it's likely going to be an inefficient peronist style arrangement that wrecks havocks in communities with data centers destroying the air, depleting the water supply and small modular nuclear reactors being built everywhere with reduced safety standards. Best of all there will be no jobs from this once the construction is completed. The american suburban experience was already unviable but this will push it over the edge. Our role as communist isn't the lament this collapse but to prepare people for it and work towards something much better.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

idk I think being smuglord is completely appropriate.

Playing devil's avocado though, it is scary and intimidating to post art and other creative work online, especially if you've never shared anything like that before. Sometimes I've felt quite vulnerable and anxious about whether something I've made will be appreciated, ignored or straight up laughed at.

I've heard all over the place that there's a growing cohort of young people who deeply believe "I can't do that/I don't know how" about anything new and unfamiliar (learned helplessness.) There's also the recognised problem of people judging their own worth on what they perceive about other people online.

I wonder if factors like these have conditioned a lot of people to avoid failure and fear of humiliation to the point where they effectively "can't" learn how to express themselves creatively.

After burning myself out at work I've struggled with so many things that don't seem rational and which I know from experience I should be able to do. It is frequently upsetting and frustrating and confusing. Rarely a conscious resistance, subjectively it feels like brain damage.

From that perspective I can accept the possibility that a lot of people experience a deeply ingrained avoidant reaction to creating and sharing things that leave them open to criticism or rejection. For those people, I suspect generative content creation is a rational and appealing alternative.

Posting generative content is a lot safer by comparison. The generative model provides a layer of plausible deniability and ego shielding, similar to people can build an impulsive habit of expressing themselves through ironic detachment. Rather than taking direct responsibility or ownership and being vulnerable, there's a disconnect between the poster/creator's self identity / sense of worth and the product they are presenting to be judged and consumed. If the generative content they post is well received then they get to enjoy that positive reception and if the content is rejected it's nothing to take personally because the chatbot made it.

I'm just speculating of course. Even if my intuition about this is accurate it's still an unhealthy solution which masks the issue and, if the studies I've skimmed are accurate, will also accelerate skill deterioration. It also seems to lead to users misidentifying what they're doing as work, or as artistic creation.

I guess it takes some of the smug out of my sails if I try to imagine the likely social factors that make posting AI slop more appealing than learning to create and express themselves.

[–] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

But AI stuff just looks like a meme template from 10 years ago. Only now it's now it shortform video that makes your brain go monke-rage . It will become increasingly cringey in time too.

It wasn't like we where in a renaissance up to 2021. Almost everything was super deriative or was some fetishic take on something else as well. Social media and monetisation had set a catastrophic foundation for this. Those who make something original will always be few and far between and will always be exceptions to the rule.

A amateur writing, painting, drawing for themselves shouldn't feel pressure to publish or share. We should learn to appreciate hiding in plain sight again and not submitting everything for scrutiny. And maybe should be for your own pleasure. Might be better for people to produce their own crap for hours then watching hundreds of brain roitting clips in that time. There is rarely ever an idea that is good on it's own merrits without years of scrutiny, collobration and yeah gatekeeping to get there.

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

AI is so hated that I have to wonder if comments like that are just bots for AI investors. Narrative control is very powerful and it's scary because it works.

[–] EatPotatoes@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Seriously hope so. Already feels like an alien invasion with friends using studio gibli profile pics and co-workers sending AI slop.