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Lemmy has a profound ability to retroactively decide something they once liked sucks. Not in the same way as learning something negative about the context, the artist, or the process and regretting that something they liked could come from a negative source. No, I mean they retroactively decide that the thing they liked is actually awful and they never liked it; because Lemmy is full of emotional children who collapse into hysterics the moment they see the letters A and I together, with most not even able to fully articulate why they feel the way they do, other than "AI bad!"
It's like if you gave a meat lover a vegan hot dog without telling them; and at first they like it and say how good it is. But then when you tell them it's not meat they immediately spit it out and start gagging and crying and saying how disgusting it is, as if moments ago they weren't just saying how much they liked it.
If you think people who hate AI haven't articulated many reasons why, you must not be listening.
The two big ones tend to either be the environmental impact of data centers or simple worker protectionism (aka believing that commissioned art should be immune to automation, literally the same position the Luddites had about industrial automation in textile mills).
Yes I can enjoy eating a hotdog but if I find out you stole that hot dog from a 13 year old, now I'm too upset that you stole from someone to enjoy it anymore. It's not that they "don't like it" anymore, they just hate that it's ai generated more than they like the image.
Yes, as I said, you can regret the circumstances that led to it. You can even dislike continuing to consume it. What we are talking about is you going "Mmm... Delicious!" Then spitting it out and going "Blegh, disgusting! Who could ever enjoy something that tastes like THAT!"
If someone gives me art from their kid I will inherently overlook the flaws because I am happy to see them drawing. If I learn it's from a billion dollar studio, it will drastically change how I view it. If someone asked me to objectively say how good the drawing is I would say it's terrible. But I'm thinking about the artist so I don't notice the flaws. If a billion dollar studio made the art I would say "I don't know how anyone could ever enjoy this" while actively enjoying the 5 year old's identical art. Just replace the 5 year old with "actual artists" and it's the same situation. My enjoyment is partially from the person behind it improving and seeing feedback.
I would never say there is no "good" ai art, but I would also say 99.999% of AI art feels very generic. If I see a regular artist draw "good" art that is generic, I will say good job because they drew good art even if I find it generic. If there's no artist... well it's just generic "good" art so why would I not just look at an actual artists work for diverse "good" art, while not supporting the energy/water leech that is ai images?
Not as much of one as you think, these days. If you have something resembling a gaming PC from within the last 5 years or so you can probably run AI image generation locally, with how large a model and how complicated a workflow depending on your specs. Less stressful for the hardware than running a current AAA game even, depending on the model (possibly demanding more GPU RAM though).
Not false but I would say most people are not doing that, and you'll be using models that are not as advanced and don't have as large a dataset as the big companies. If someone wants to generate them locally and enjoys them then more power to them (though still arguable they're using ill-begotten data)
The quality of the art isn’t in question here. what is, is what got it there. So yeah, if I see an picture and like it, but then find out it’s made by a talentless little hack that typed a sentence into a text prompt-
.. It instantly sucks ass.
You see, it’s this reason that drives us to put our children’s shitty pictures on the fridge. It’s not because it’s art show adjacent work. It’s becase of the effort and time spent learning to make it what it is. Effort is something we call an “added value”. As is experience and training. These things are all subconsciously included in how we appreciate a thing- how we attribute a value it.
-and all of these things are ONLY acquired by a human being.
So no, it’s not “lemmy retroactively deciding something liked once sucked”
It’s learning that something they once liked, took zero effort to make, and wasn’t even created by a human being, but instead- a sweaty little wannabe “artist” behind a keyboard.
There is NO defense for AI making slop art.
I like the metaphor where you deny someone's dietary/moral choices, essentially made them party to a grave sin in their eyes, rob them of their ability to consent, and then laugh at them when they're upset about it. It's really fucking telling.
I think you inverted the scenario. Otherwise you're suggesting there's some way that eating a veggie dog is a grave sin
I... swore it was the other way round. Either way, their metaphor isn't the same as the actual situation because most who don't like AI hate it on a moral ground (wasteful, egregious) rather than on a pure aesthetic one.
See? Just like I said: emotional children.
They literally glossed over your point and the other dude, and then claim humans are perfect art making creatures.
Spoken just like someone who would actually argue that a computer can crate the human equivalent of art.