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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Recently there was a similar incident in China involving a Xiaomi car. This led to an incoming legislation that will require all cars to have mechanical handles in case of emergency.

Tesla alone had many such cases and there are no plans whatsoever to do anything about it.

Imagine losing to China in safety regulations.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why not? China is developing while the US is sitting around with their thumb up their ass.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've been fed a lot of information over the years that isn't strictly accurate. While their government is demonstrably overbearing, they have prioritized a substantial technical renaissance. I'm sure there is still some pretty crazy stuff going on since you can get a full meal in a noodle shop for the equivalent of a couple bucks, but they're really advancing quickly in many sectors.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Paraphrasing Louis CK, the things you can do if you ignore basic human rights is pretty awesome.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

There's a lot of shit they haven't handled right. Their propaganda engine is absolute, and people disappear for years when they criticize the government in the slightest way. But that hasn't really done anything with that that'd i'd call pretty awesome.

The government runs half of the largest companies. They are all commanded to work together, at a loss if necessary to get things done. When the government said we're going in on solar, they forced the aluminum companies to fill solar orders first and cheaply, they commanded the banks to give them extremely favorable loans. Now, when they make a panel, the raw cost is far better than can be produced anywhere else.

People are allowed to move from their home zones, but they lose a lot of their government benefits. When they want to spin up a new manufacturing center, They offer to let people move to the new location while keeping their benefits. They can direct the labor, through opportunity and spin up cities on a dime.

How they treat their fringe groups is awful. The lack of personal freedom and stranglehold they still have on business is enough to keep me from ever wanting to go there for more than a visit, but however everything is run isn't quite as bad as we've been led to believe either.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are tons of valid criticisms of China but they seem to have their shit firmly together in many areas.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wouldn't go that far... They are really all over the place

But at least they don't allow companies to get powerful enough to control the government. If there's one lesson to learn, it's how important it is to keep capital in line

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they don't let companies get powerful enough to run the government.

Communists: big company bad!

Libs: big government bad!

it's the same picture

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 18 hours ago

Me: big thing, bad outcome

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

That is one good thing about state capitalism. Although, it does nothing to prevent party corruption, which has definitely been getting worse for them.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

They're developing while we are unveloping.

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Didn’t some of the teslas have an emergency pull handle. You just couldn’t get to it and it broke when used.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago

You have to disassemble part of the door to get to it. Good luck doing that when you're concussed and on fucking fire.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FVwuOdMBpfo

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My brother's Tesla has a manual latch you can pull, but it is not marked, and "concealed" by the door handle. I kept using it by accident which kinda pissed him off, because the door is designed to roll down the window about a half inch before opening to avoid damaging the window seal. Using the manual override skips this rolldown, and just bends the seal out of the way when you open the door.

Personally, I like the interior handles on the Mustang Mach E better. There is one latch to open the door, but it has two stages. First stage triggers the electric "door kicker" and the second stage physically pulls the latch open. So in an emergency, you just pull the same door handle harder to force it open.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago

Lol it's his own fault for buying a car that needs to have the windows roll down before you can open the door

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Didn’t know that about the E’s doors. That sounds so much better and safer. Muscle memory is almost all you have when you have been knocked out on impact and have no idea what is happening after a wreck.

[–] 31ank@ani.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My Mazda MX-5 also rolls down the windows when opening the door, but its still a physical latch in the end so it's possible to design it this way (there's even a warning in the manual that the window could shatter if no battery is installed)

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just sharing my experience with how Tesla implemented it.

[–] 31ank@ani.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't want to sound mean or anything, just wanted to add my experience 😅

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Nope. Horribly mean. Why oh why would you do this to sweet innocent me.

Yeah, we good. I didn't think you were being mean.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Sure, we've got fail-safes, but they don't work. They make the customer FEEL better though, and isn't that worth the higher price?

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you mean "imagine losing to China"? Didn't it just show you its regulatory power and the reaction capabilities of its governance system with the Xiaomi example? What's so bad about "losing to China"?

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago

You see, china is known (I'm not here to debate justly or unjustly) for bad safety standards. Thus, doing worse than chinas (percieved) safety standards, ie, losing to china on safety standards, is a bad thing, as it gives contrast to how bad our safety standards are. I hope I've explained this in a way that isn't upsetting to you.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Thats because america only does what makes the most money, cause money will solve all the problems surely. China makes policy decisions on what's best for the citizens of the country.