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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 48 points 4 days ago (8 children)

American here. I'm sure annexing Greenland would be very useful to us for all kinds of reasons. I don't want to do it.

Unless the people in Greenland want to become part of the United States, I don't believe we have any more right to declare Greenland ours than Hitler had a right to declare France his, or Russia has a right to declare Ukraine theirs.

If the people of Greenland want to become part of the United States, verified with an election monitored by multiple disinterested third parties, then by all means welcome to the party guys.

However given the timing of this ridiculous idea, I can't help but think the whole thing is just a distraction from the Epstein files.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

He's committed to his imperial continent-kingdom:

His intent to annex Canada's real.

WITH Alaska AND Greenland, he can kill all ships bringing supplies to Canada..

He's going to be waging war on 3 fronts: northward, Civil War Part2, & southward, once he "de-naturalizes" all non-Republicans, converting all outside his cult into "illegals"..

His enmity against NATO has been visible for over a decade, btw..

https://www.lee.senate.gov/2025/6/lee-introduces-withdrawal-from-nato is independent of Trump, but it does communicate that NATO isn't safe, now..

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I see colonialism is back on the menu of Amerikkkans

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an American I certainly hope not

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago
[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Unless the people in California want to secede from the United States

I wonder how you USians would respond to that.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Californian here, I'd vote yes.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Oregonian here. Pretty sure we'd come along. I haven't asked Washington, but I assume they're in too.

As a Califorgreenlandian, i ratify the change that apparently just got voted in.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Given that it is a part of our mainland continent, I would be less enthusiastic than if, say, Hawaii or Alaska wanted to secede.

Nonetheless, self-determination is a solidly American value. If an overwhelming majority of Californians wanted to leave the union, then in general I believe the rest of the country should let them. Otherwise we are forcing them to be subject to a national government they don't want.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I really, really doubt it would be as peaceful as you say it would be

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

I doubt it very much also. But I am saying in concept, if the vast majority of the people in one place don't want to be a part of the country they are part of, in general they should be allowed to leave.

[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There has been leaks that US intelligence are making moves to influence the greenlandic people using intelligence gathering to find pro secession and US elements in greenland. Any talk of the possibility of greenland joining the US as a real possibility only legitimizes an eventual takeover. Greenland has made it clear that they are not interested and that such talk is an insult and a threat to their sovereignty and self governance, current and future. I don’t think you mean to promote Trumps talking points, so this is just meant to let you know that it indirectly does.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Pro succession movement in Greenland? I very much doubt it. They can influence all they want, and if they are that only shows imho that they fundamentally misunderstand how other countries work.

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Americans also need to have a referendum to allow Greenland to join and Denmark needs to have a referendum to let them go as well, if it is too be all above board, as Greenland is subject to the Danish government.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

The fact that Denmark would likely respect the Greenlandic vote is proof that they shouldn't leave.

[–] llothar@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

That's a very slippery slope. I am sure there are parts of Latvia that would happily join Russia. Or parts of US that would like to cede from the union. This is all but easy.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, if we really need anything from it we should work with the Greenlandic people and the Danes to find a mutually agreeable solution. Annexing territories of allies is evil and fucking stupid.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

A mutual solution to the problem the US created and which didn't exist before Trump.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

Solution to what?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

You think I am actually advocating for this nonsense?