this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2025
300 points (92.6% liked)
Privacy
3182 readers
250 users here now
Icon base by Lorc under CC BY 3.0 with modifications to add a gradient
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I using proton more as a middle finger to google than anything else and at that it works fine.
Posteo has nice fingers
The best middle finger is not relying on commercial platforms, go libre and self host
Self hosting email is impractical. The tech titans already ruined that.
There are much better and cheaper email hosts than Proton, and they give you better control.
But you're not entirely right. Self hosting email is very possible, there are a few details to learn, but its not dead.
They have a point, you have one chance to get your self-hosted emails config correct. If you fail or mess up somewhere your domain will get added to a bunch of anti-spam lists that major providors use and cross-reference. If that happens your domain will just be branded as spam and will never be able to effectivly use your fancy service email.
That's true, but getting the config right is not that hard nowadays. At least not harder than setting up a Jellyfin server for the first time.
I used to do custom email solutions for outreach agencies, people who needed to send 500 emails a day without getting flagged as spam. That's was difficult. Your personal email? Not even an afternoon and its done and warmed.
…when was that memo released? Looking back at the last quarter-century-plus of self-hosting, and it’s damn obvious I missed it.
E-mail providers and companies providing online services whitelist domains anymore.
Cory Doctorow has a writeup:
https://doctorow.medium.com/dead-letters-73924aa19f9d
Depressing reading.
Agreed.