Saw some posts about .ml today and thought I'd jump on the bandwagon lol
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I kinda feel like Lemmy has been much more hostile recently. I don’t know if it’s bots or if I just post bad comments, but it makes me want to go back to just being a lurker.
That'll happen with growth im sure.
It's not just you. People will wilfully misinterpret what I'm saying to their liking, sometimes accusing me of nonsense. Some others will jump in out of nowhere as if I owe them money. I have some asshole in my notifications right now trying to defend another asshole for some reason. The best part is how I'm the one getting downvoted for defending myself and calling them out on it.
This guy uses lemmy
I do, unfortunately.
This is awkward but... I think you owe me money.
The whole karma thing is one of the worst inventions in the internet. The whole upvote if you agree downvote if you don't it's stupid and should be eliminated, no one cares what you vote, if you have something to add reply, if no keep reading, nod your head up and down or left and right and move on.
Oh, I don't care about the points, I'll still reply in whatever manner I like anyway. It's at least some indicator of how your comment comes across to readers. It's just funny that I win the unpopularity contest for simply defending myself while the other person is spewing bullshit.
I got 1.6 million karma points in 18 months. Karma rules everything around me, K.R.E.A.M. get the upvotes, comment on my laptop
I feel like this is mostly the case for (semi-)political discussions
Nope. Well, maybe: is wanting to suck on gabe from valve's feet a political issue?
The world sucks right now. People on Lemmy are very aware of what's going on and are rightfully upset and that reflects in general sentiment and interactions.
Yeah. I get it. I feel that way too. Especially, if you fall into a minority group, it’s a scary time to be.
I said that the same people were bad as this other commenter but I mentioned that maybe instead of hating them, like the bad people do to us, we might want to approach the situation with a little more nuance and uphold empathic viewpoints for everyone not just people who agree with what we agree with and they told me the bad people shouldn't get any sort of empathy because they do bad things.
Yeah, people have been getting a bit touchy and on occasion misinterpret an innocuous comment as an attack.
What the fuck did you just say to me you little shit? I'll have you know that I graduated top of my class in Lemmy online debates.... (etc...)
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I’m happy they are passionate about their beliefs, at least.
That's how you get crusades and genocides. Beliefs are a problem and should be stopped.
Beliefs are a double edged sword. The US would have never had civil rights movements if they were stopped completely for having "problematic" beliefs.
it's probably just getting more popular
I hope so! I suspect the hostility will pass when American politics becomes less life or death.
Everything everywhere is becoming them vs us. Red vs blue, north vs south, east vs west, their color vs my color, their party vs my party, their opinion vs our opinion, your region vs my region, your problems vs my problems. Everywhere.
And we are all losing except the people that have always been winning.
Isn't it just Western recent hysteria? Don't see it for most of the world.
You are going to lose.
it's only gotten worse far as i'v been alive. bar only ever gets lower, not sure how they lower it from trump...alex jones/tucker carlson ticket for 2028, perhaps?
Nick Fuentes / The Literal Ghost of Hitler
Candice Owens/Milo Yiannopoulos
"If you don't vote for Owens, you're voting for Fuentez!"
"Not getting a Nazi isn't an option. But what we can control is whether we get a Strasserist Nazi or a Hitlerite Nazi. Clearly, you have a moral responsibility to support the Strasserist."
(It's getting harder and harder to do parodies because a lot of people would unironically agree with that.)
Thats what I'm thinking. Other platforms got unusable.
As a relative newcomer, I've felt and read a lot of hostility on Lemmy. Reddit felt smug, but not unfriendly.
Welcome, here it's smug and unfriendly.
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Well I'm a delight, but I've been too busy to comment much lately. Sorry everyone!
You're a tank
Amazing username
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Have you been to any of the history subreddits or the incel ones or the right wing ones? Or just r/all?
Lol. Reddit is super hateful right now.
One reason I like lemmy is because people are a lot more friendly here.
I never used /all. I had a specific set of subreddits I used to browse. I never went to the incel or right wing subreddits. I used to browse AskHistorians occasionally.
Block early and often is practically the motto of Lemmy. Many people got banned from Reddit for a reason, and then they all came here. People with a conscience also came here too, but there's definitely a lot of noise amidst the signal.
And moderation tools here suck, so it's much less regulated overall, which is somewhat a good thing but then people don't want to discuss the bad side where people straight-up leave here as a result, as evidenced by e.g. the Monthly Active User counts in decline and also comments in spaces such as r/RedditAlternatives.
I think people leave because of the lack of niche communities.
Reddit niche communities are like crack. None of the fandom communities are active here.
Does piefed have good moderation tools?
That is also true:-). What they say for themselves is (1) tankies, (2) toxicity, (3) too confusing (this must be Lemmy bc PieFed's sign up wizard is outstanding), and (4) yeah, lack of content.
I haven't moderated a community on PieFed, but in addition to what Skavau said, PieFed has many tools that alleviate the need for moderation in the first place, like keyword filtering (you wouldn't need to make a community rule to reduce the amount of Musk or Trump content when users can filter that out on their own without needing a mod to do it for them) and user icons (next to e.g. highly contentious users with >10-fold more downvotes than upvotes, so you better know what you are getting into if you choose to respond).
From an instance admins perspective, yes.
Otherwise it's about on-par at a community moderation level. It has a few other things but they don't present as viewed from Lemmy, mitigating their utility at the moment.
I've gotten suspended from Reddit for hurting fascist's feelings, most recently because I said what I wished had happened to the leaders of the confederacy.
Reddit will let blatant hate speech and active calls for violence against minorities stand as "not violating any rules" and the only reason any of the subreddits aren't overran by that crap is the individual subreddit mods remove comments and ban people, but that only goes so far as they are all unpaid volunteers.
The kind of people that do get banned by Reddit for being bigots have to say stuff that would actually get them in legal trouble, and usually those are the ones that are actively threatening specific people all the time because they think death threats are an effective debate tactic when they don't know what they are talking about, and they never know what they are talking about.
Those people end up being a special kind of asshole so when they come to Lemmy they end up doing the same, but with federation they tend to endup more on the openly fascist instances that most sane instances don't federate with.
I received a "promoting violence violation" on reddit for referencing "Surviving The Game" and other tropes of where rich, white, affluent assholes hunt human for sport.
It wasn’t always like this. I feel like it’s really been in the last 3ish months. Hopefully it’ll pass.
Usually there's an uptick of violent bOtH sIdEs SaMe-style rhetoric just prior to an election in some Western nation. I'm not sure if that is what is happening now or something else.
Not sure when you last visited, but reddit's hostility is almost worse than twitter these days lol
Saw someone get dogpiled with neonazi aryan rhetoric from several users for saying they "prefer curly hair", it's like its own MAGA cult now.
Also, Reddit admins regularly suspend/ban anyone marginally on the left when we say we will defend ourselves or when we express opinions about certain dead fascists or in my most recent suspension: Said the confederate leaders should have gotten the same treatment they gave to runaway slaves.
Reddit only bans fascists/conservatives when they do something that could get them in legal trouble. But anyone on the left, and especially anyone queer, even slightly arguing we might need to defend ourselves from their violence with our own will get banned extremely quick.
Remember: Reddit didn't take down subreddits dedicated to perving on children until it got in the news.
They didn't take down some highly conservative subreddits until they started threatening state police.
Might be general tribal attitude.
I was banned from reddit for calling out colonial apologia and saying fuck you nazi. They literally banned all my accounts without review. I wasn't even trying to circumvent the ban with the others.