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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Is it just an unfounded report by a single person with no evidence? I bet the fbi got a bunch of crazy shit reported.

If there’s any evidence of this being true let’s see it.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, let's ask the person to testify in court. We'll charge Trump with conspiracy to commit murder and then we'll have them testify and a jury can decide if he's guilty. Just like everyone else in this country should have to face.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's not how it would work even for an ordinary person. This is an accusation about something rather far-fetched happening 35 years before the accusation was made, with no evidence for it except the accusation itself. It wouldn't lead to criminal charges.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

you don't know when they first contacted the police or FBI. also you have no idea what evidence was collected. your acting like you know something. you don't. yet all we can see is that is was an accusation, but claiming you know when the accusation was made or what investigations have been done is pure bullshit, so kindly shove that back up your ass where you got it from.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s hearsay at best as-is. Compile some evidence first otherwise it would be dismissed.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's not just hearsay when its in the context of everything we know about Epstein, Trump, and how they've been named together in previous, similar case(s).

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Top legal minds of Lemmy are in this thread today.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Nah man, just not an idiot. Maybe in a vacuum this would be hearsay, but it's not in a vacuum is it

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 2 days ago

Compile in some kind of FBI file?

Gosh, we should really get on that.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's another report in the files where a woman did report her rape to the police and she was later found dead with her "head blown off". Under a functional justice system that would be thoroughly investigated, under our system it was quickly ruled a suicide because she took "bad cocaine".

These papers are being released because our justice system did not protect these victims. It is up to the public to ask questions and we need not presume innocence of the powerful as they failed to protect the vulnerable.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

THAT piece of paper is evidence.

[–] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago

It’s likely one of many reasons Trump is so anti-FBI in his first term, train his followers to think they can’t be trusted.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It’s not evidence of a crime. It’s a report. Someone said it, it got written down.

I’m not saying it is or it is not true.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That’s not what the Epstein files are. They’re literally any paperwork related to him, even the tips from kooks. Some reaches the level of evidence, most is cruft.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This "paperwork" suggests that TRUMP murdered a newborn and dumped it into a lake after having SEX with a CHILD.

Are YOU suggesting that we treat it as gossip or should we look a bit closer???

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m saying an accusation can be made by anyone, and does not automatically constitute fact. Its presence in the file doesn’t mean the claim was substantiated.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This accusation was not made by "anyone". It was made by the woman who watched him murder her newborn.

Why would she say that? Money? Fame? Power? She currently HAS none of that.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To shift blame? For attention? Mental illness? We don’t know enough of the context. Was it investigated? What was the outcome? Was it deemed credible?

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Credible enough to remain in the files.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again, the files are a dump of everything they have related to Epstein. There is no credibility threshold.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I noticed that there is NOTHIING from ME in the Epstein files. I said lots of things about him.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You made a formal complaint about him to the FBI, did you?

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

No, what a shame we only have one way to purge evil from our society. But maybe I've pre-judged him.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

They don't delete reports from record when they're deemed not credible. Not even when they're proven false.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The report was made a couple months before the 2020 election. Many others also made wild reports. I saw two others in the Epstein files made literally 6 days for the election.

There are plenty of reasons to make up a story.

But sure, they should go and investigate it. Starting with the woman and her uncle. Oh wait, I bet the uncle is dead. And I bet she took great effort to gather evidence... right...?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are plenty of reasons to make up a story.

Like being targeted for harassment and possibly get murdered? This is not a typical rape accusation, it is made against someone who has been carrying out extra-judicial murders abroad.

And I bet she took great effort to gather evidence

This is classic rape apologetics. It is not the victim's job to collect evidence while they are distressed, that's the job of the investigators.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

The files also contain two other reports about Trump abusing girls, made literally one week before the 2020 election. No corroborating evidence.