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Why would you post this without context? IIRC this was in response to someone complaining that Goblin Slayer was about slaying goblins, and no other monsters
I mean... That guy does kinda have a point. Demon Slayers slay more than demons. Speed Racer does more than race (and I never once saw him doing speed). Sailor Moon isn't just the one titular character. 🤷♂️
And you can't even sail to the moon. There's no wind in space, who do they think they are kidding.
This is very important, thanks
what a boorish genocidal anime, with such a kickass theme song
I hope you learn to enjoy fiction and stop being so miserable for your own sake
Idk doesn't sound very miserable, just sounds like you got angry because they don't like Goblin Slayer.
So, I guess... I hope you learn to enjoy reality and stop being so miserable for your own sake.
I'm not making an argument, but I'm curious whether you feel the same way about demons in Frieren.
I do.
Frieren seems so chill and passive, except when it comes to demons and then it's like "NO THEIR KIND CANNOT BE TRUSTED", and everyone's like "will you chill? it's just a kid" and she's like "THE CHILD MUST DIE"
See my stackexchange post asking for clarification on this:
https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/68783/on-what-basis-does-frieren-sousou-no-frieren-reject-the-rights-of-demons-to-ex
Apparently the answer is "all is explained in the manga, how dare you ask this question"
Do you feel the same way about zombies?
Did you read the top reply? It doesn't even mention the manga and explains exactly, what I would have thought was the answer to your question. Maybe the manga goes more into detail (later?), but the main parts are there:
Do I find this trope boring? A bit.
Does it fit the show? I think so. Is it wrong to have such a species in a show? No.
It's fantasy and most races can work together. Having an irredeemably evil race as enemy just makes it easier to ignore ethical questions in fights (for me and a lot of other people).
Because if the show tells us, that they are indeed always and irredeemably evil, then we can ignore all those questions and just enjoy the fight. (Jajaja, that's what the Nazis ~~did~~ still do, I know!)
I wouldn't say they're evil. It's basically like thinking you can be friends with a tiger. They're on a completely alien ethical framework to humans. Killing humans is the natural thing to do, so of course they do it.
Couple of things here, demons aren’t an organic species in frieren, they’re crafted directly from magic itself to kill people. They’re 40k orcs, but slower to breed. They’re human shaped because of Darwinian mechanisms that allowed them to live longer in the shape of humans. Each any every one of them is a sociopath masking it with a malevolently high iq, with psychology of an inherently foreign base.
They’re allowed to exist freely, they choose war at every turn as their base. In fact, their king seeks coexistence and understanding, but does so by genociding humanity for a literal millennium in order to build a psychological basis for humankind’s behavior. Some demon leaders suggested that humanity would be completely wiped out long before their king might finally bridge the gap.
Attempts at coexistence continue to occur, but all turned out to be subterfuge, with the ends being genocide. There’s a vague suggestion that this is a time travel based Douglas Adams-esque god crafted world-computer created to quantize human psychology, but that is also monstrous. Anyway, read the comic if you want to understand.
Definitely not, the show is pretty much a 1:1 adaptation of the manga.
That also wasn't the answer they received on stack exchange. The anime is also still being adapted, and the manga isn't even finished.
Wow the only thing true in this post is that you asked a question on stack exchange
I guess I was trying to be funny, but came across as deranged(?)
Apologies to anyone I offended
It's not that you came across as deranged, it's more that you seem to be of bad faith. People on stackexchange have answered to you calmly, seriously and respectfully, but your take from it was "how dare you" and "read the manga", which is pretty dishonest imo.
That last part was more of a joke. I hope people can look at my other answers (in that exchange and here) and see me as rational. 'Tis Christmas afterall
They also act like the show doesn't explore the dynamic at all, and that somehow it's not legitimate to say the manga has answers the show doesn't have when the manga is several arcs ahead of the anime. This person just wants to accuse people of being Nazis.
I was with you right until that last sentence. Did I miss something?
Damn, people are real mad you don't like their elf waifu.
Downvoted for being right, the fact that more people aren't suspicious of an anime with a bunch of german names and aesthetics that also just happens to feature a race of non-people who are incurably evil and can never be trusted is baffling to me
I'd say that the German aesthetic prevails in anime largely because it's got those idealistic ruralist one-with-nature mountain vibes, rather than the love for fascism.
Southern Germany especially is a beautiful idealistic landscape (warst du schonmal in...), though nowadays you'd see the "old europe" more in places like Bosnia than in Germany, but Bosnian culture is less accessible
Frieren's fascism seems to be largely a personal thing specific to her, rather than something that all the other characters exhibit. I'm hoping there's an arc that proves her wrong in her beliefs about demons
Germany is beautiful, sure, so are most countries, you can find similar rural beauty in Africa, the fact that the country that Japan was allied with for WW2 is the go-to for this isn't a coincidence. I'd love to see an arc that alleviates my suspicions, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I'd rather believe they chose Germany because it's dead center of europe with mashups of all kinds of influences from surrounding regions, densely populated like Japan is, and has wild ancient forests along with long-standing organized institutions (scientific academies, churches, military) that jells with the conservative Japanese obsession for order, custom, and Nature.
(...But, yeah - it could just be axis-love)
It's entirely possible that you're right, we'll see
I'm told there is not.
well, dang.