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[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well…the people the right call leftist extremists are generally not leftists are have a tenuous leftist label.

Like…(modern) anarchists are generally apolitical or nihilists…and don’t come from the left at the rates they think they do. The Charlie Kirk shooter is a decent example of what somebody will say is this monolith of leftist extremism that exist in large numbers and is a cohesive group.

Short story long: those who use the label “leftist extremist” (without irony) are basically making a boogy man out of random crazies who they don’t have to ignore because they’re not clearly right wingers.

This isn’t the 70s…they don’t have The Weather Underground and The Black Panthers to scapegoat…so they just make shit up.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

anarchists are nearly absolutely leftist. i dont know what youre on about.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Unless he is referring to anarcocapitalists.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Is that just another name for libertarians?

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago

Maybe. I don't really know if it's 100% the same but...

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 21 hours ago

anarcocapitalists

An odd form of anarchy that still requires the state to enforce property rights.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Capitalists that don't believe in narcos?

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 4 points 18 hours ago

Or "a narco capitalist".

[–] texture@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

fair :) but they werent.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I agree…and It’s why I put modern in brackets…then defined my terms. Don’t stop reading after the thing you disagree with.

Actual anarchists are rare. The people we call anarchists aren’t anarchists….they’re a mishmash of hoodlums, nihilists, anti-fascists, Nazi agitators, etc.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i read the whole thing. the opening line of the second paragraph is just so declarative that it was hard to discern what you meant by any of this. I dont agree that modern anarchists are generally apolitical or nihilists, thats all.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again…I agree with you.

But I defined my terms…and I’m also correct…because I’m the one who framed the comment. You can be confused…but you can’t disagree lol

I’ll further define them/clarify. I’m not talking about actual anarchists…which don’t exist for the purposes of what I’m saying. I’m talking about anarchists as defined by Donald Trump, for example. The people he’s talking about aren’t actual leftist anarchists…they the Neo Nazi agitators, or the hoodlums that pollute leftist protests etc. They're the guys from Fight Club. Capiche?

[–] texture@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you werent talking about actual anarchists, then you could have been clear in saying as much. anyway, good day.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The very first thing I said was “the people who the right call anarchists”.

This was a very Reddit-like exchange. Nostalgia.

[–] texture@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago

then you started a new paragraph, making a declarative statement, contradicting the position you meant to convey.

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you talking about the definition of no rules and pure chaos associated with misfits and punks? Back in the 80s there was a whole genre of anarchist music that exemplified actual anarchistic political ideology. There was always a vein of actual anarchists around if looked around a bit.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was there…I’ve always “caucused” with anarchists.

I’m not talking about actual anarchists…I’m talking about the people who the right label as anarchists…ie the people who don’t know what anarchy is and think it’s chaos and destruction and nihilism.

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, I find that most people I encounter can't define socialism or communism. That's a problem. We need a robust education system to encourage curiosity on subjects we aren't familiar with.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 15 hours ago

The best way to recruit conservatives is to cut education.