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"It didn’t go unnoticed in Frankfurt that Visa and Mastercard suspended operations in Russia in March 2022 after the invasion of Ukraine……Thirteen of the 20 countries in the euro have no domestic card scheme. You use an international operator, or you pay in cash."

It hasn't gone unnoticed that the US is threatening to invade an EU country's (Denmark) territory, either. Would a future President Trump or President Vance threaten to shut down European financial infrastructure if it opposes an annexation of Greenland? Who knows, but better to take away that opportunity for leverage.

The plan is that you can link it to your bank account or open a special account at post offices throughout the EU. There will be phone apps for payments and digital Euro debit cards. Visa/Mastercard & Apple/Google Pay typically charge 3% fees; the digital Euro will have none. That will ensure it is speedily adopted by retailers and quickly supplants the US providers. Also worth noting its technology will be 100% European only, leaving zero vulnerability/leverage to non-Europeans.

Digital euro: what it is and how we will use the new form of cash - The European Central Bank is determined to break the US grip on card payments

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[–] elgordino@fedia.io 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Visa/Mastercard & Apple/Google Pay typically charge 3% fees

Not in the EU. Visa and Mastercard have been capped to 0.5% for years.

Apple / Google pay take a small cut from the 0.5%

Diversity in payment methods would be no bad thing though. It’s amazing how Visa/Mastercard have managed to insert themselves into almost ever transaction, particularly since contactless became so prevalent.

[–] user224 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Aren't there some other fees? Some smaller shops even outright ask if you don't have cash instead.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 1 points 6 hours ago

It depends on your POS operator. Looking around commissions are usually between 0.5% and 2.5% depending on the card, where it comes from, the circuit, whether it's consumer or commercial etc...

[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago

I am completely uninformed on card payment fees but l imagine some if this is because it's easier to underreport cash revenue to tax authorities

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 22 hours ago

The merchant will often take a larger amount. For example Square charge 1.75% fees.

The 0.5% is the bit that goes to Mastercard/Visa iirc.

It's never an enormous amount, and if they don't have to let Mr Tax Man know then some small businesses won't.