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You say that, but I'm ready for all this to be over and behind us.
You're gonna be ready for a long time then.
Thats not how any of this works, pretending away a problem and just magically snapping back to "normal".
That doesn't happen in situations like this, go read a history book.
"Normal" is gone, never to return, because "normal" was built on too many lies, lies whose contradictions led us to this current moment.
This country will literally never be the same, it will be fundamentally different for generations, this Trump era is going to be a ... whole distinct defining subsection of our history, not unlike the way Nazism was/is for the history of modern Germany.
There is no pinch me and wake me up from the nightmare.
The nightmare is real, and it will take effort, conviction, and courage to try build something better.
I don't mean "normal" for the U.S., I mean normal for the rest of the world. I legitimately don't care how this transition ends up going for the U.S. I just want to be rid of them.
The U.S. was never a good country. The colonisers were religious extremists who left Europe because their views were too extremist for us, even way back then. It's built on a foundation of genocide and murder, and it never grew past that. It's never cared for its people. It was always an oligarchy, that was literally the entire point of the U.S. gaining independence from the British crown.
Trump being in charge isn't really that different from before. He's unhinged and less political, but he didn't set all of this up. All of the systems that enable him were already in place and used by those before him. The U.S. was always a conniving and manipulative country, it's never really had allies, just tools. It's sad that it took this long for so many to realise, and even now our politicians are hedging their bets that things return to the old status-quo when really they should be severing all ties and leaving the U.S. to collapse in on itself.
Uh, well if the transition goes very poorly, uh, WW3 starts and maybe we all get nuked, so, you might wanna care about that.
And ... given what you're saying now... by 'this whole thing over and behind us' and you 'just want to be rid of them'... you mean...
... just, ctrl+z on the entire history of the US?
You mean the US becomes 'normal' by some other other country or countries standard of 'normal'?
My point remains, you have to get from point A to point B, somehow, whatever your definition of point B is.
No disagreement that US has sucked in a whole lotta extremely horrible ways, since before day 1... but... my point is that wishful thinking is pointless, its actually just virtue signalling.
You're just saying that... the US should just magically go away or transform... somehow...?
Yep, US bad, we agree.
US bad, but what do about US bad?
I agree. People are understandably distraught and need to vent, even though that venting might not make the most rational sense.
In the end, I think any "capital-S" State power can have fingers pointed at all the ways it's abused that power regardless of the consent of the governed.
There are still good things people of the US have done (even still doing, however ignored and against the odds), good people are everywhere, and to say "US always bad burn it all" feels like an emotional and lazy take that abdicates the responsibility to combat evil, and lets it run roughshod with a shrug.
We must hope fiercely that we can replace this flawed and exploited system with something better, or we have nothing to fight for. "Something that's not this" is not good enough and won't unite people to make a difference.