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if you see an American (me) whining about it being -8 degrees just know that -8C is warm in comparison

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[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 4 days ago (6 children)

fahrenheit is the one unit i will never give up. fuck celsius and whoever said it was "more logical" to compress the majority of the weather into the same 30-degree span. i will go to my deathbed weighing 35 kilograms at a body temperature of 95 degrees.

[–] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Celsius is more useful

reason: it's the unit people use

sidenote: a small, disadvantaged 3-4% minority never learned it, because of failures in their education system

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly neither are all that particularly useful, as I have in my old age and Midwestern fashion, come to the conclusion that knowing the humidity matters far more than the actual temperature on a day to day basis.

[–] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

freeman-true the "what's it like outside" compass

[–] aebletrae@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Typical supremacist indoctrination, treating integers as if they're the only real numbers, and decimal places as if they aren't significant at all.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have never needed decimals in Celsius for weather. I don't know who needs that kind of granularity, but it's certainly not me

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Going from the arguments I always hear in favor of farenheit, I can only assume that the average American owns ≈100 coats of varying thickness

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you think it's to decide how clothed to be but actually it's too determine how naked is appropriate, typical European just not getting it

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

Die nudity ist always appropriate ja

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

decimals shmecimals whole numbers or bust.

as far as i'm concerned, if you need a decimal point, you've designed your system wrong. except if they're powers of 2

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

at least use rankine if you're going to be wrong.

to paraphrase several europ*ans i've heard, fahrenheit for daily use, rankine for science.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

if you really want unnecessarily detailed degrees you realise you can have fractions of celcius, right? 25.5 is a perfectly legible C measurement!

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yeah but that's not how the number monkeys running human heuristics work. 70 degrees F = warm, I can wear a T-shirt and shorts; 60 degrees F = a little bit cooler, I would wear pants and long sleeves. 21.111 degrees C vs 15.556 degrees C = monke-beepboop

[–] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I don't know why people insist on bringing up decimals at all for Celsius; nobody uses them. never even think about temperatures other than in 5C increments

it's

30C - too hot

25C - perfect

20C - oh that's nice

15C - I'm wearing a thin jacket

10C - I'm wearing a jacket

5C - I'm wearing a hat and a scarf

0C - winter has arrived

-5C and below - damn it's kinda cold

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's fair, but Fahrenheit is basically the same thing but for 10s and fits comfortably between 0 and 100:
100 - I ain't movin'
90 - too hot
80 - hot
70 - perfect
60 - cool
50 - chilly
40 - brisk
30 - brr
20 - heavy coat
10 - heavy coat + thermals
0 - I ain't movin'

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

negative celsius is the most important part of why i dislike it. in the fahrenheit you have "below freezing", which isn't really all that cold, and you have "below zero", which is fucking freezing. you could say "below negative seventeen point seven eight" i guess

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This reasoning is bizarre to me. Is it 0 or less? Then it will fundamentally change the weather - it'll be frosty, watch out for ice or snow. I'm not sure why you'd "most importantly" prefer negative meaning that yeah it's like.. colder.

because it's convenient to be able to express the difference between just below freezing and abnormally cold. it's the difference between wearing a sweater and a long sleeve shirt and wearing a jacket and scarf. or just not going outside.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

20 celsius is 68 fahrenheit, 21 celsius is not quite 70 fahrenheit. you don't need the granularity of fahrenheit, you cannot feel the difference between 68 and 69 fahrenheit. any belief you have that there is a benefit to fahrenheit is an illusion brought about from your immersion in it

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

OK that's two clothing warmth levels — what about the other 98

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You have 98 different outfits depending on the temperature?

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

No, but that's why I don't need 98+ degrees of granularity when I'm deciding which of my two coats to put on

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Because that level of precision is.. entirely unnecessary anyway. Say 21C vs 15C and everybody understands the same thing.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But 21 and 15 aren't as nice and intuitive as 60 and 70

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

This will be entirely down to what you're used to. Because I and everyone I know disagrees.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

70 degree F - 60 degree F comparison is just 20 and 15 C for the purposes of dressing you don't really need to use the fractions lol. you do need to abandon the notion that every perceptually significant difference is 10 degrees up or down.

ironic i was replying to someone suggesting F gives users more granularity but how you use it you're only paying attention to the deci-degrees

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

it's not just the granularity. in the modern day weather systems convert from celsius anyway, so you will never see a temperature of 69 (unfortunately). it's about how many numbers relating to humanity happen to fit in between 0 and 100°. if i were designing a system of measurement from scratch i would set whatever baseline body temperature is at 100. call it the "go nude in the shade" temperature. the temperature at which the average person is at complete equilibrium with the room. for zero it would have to be something really cold so that "below zero" actually means something. the actual number is debatable but it definitely isn't the point at which water freezes. fahrenheit isn't perfect but it almost matches those those constraints and so, while certain climates might regularly fall outside the 0-99° range, i think most people in the world would agree that their definition of "temperate" falls in there, and outside that range is uncomfortable. also as a bonus the difference between freezing and boiling is 180°F, which is half 360°, which is a nice number.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

below freezing is not subjective and tells you concrete things about the environment. i don't see the advantage in having "temperate" on a 30 vs 20 degree scale, 1 degree C and 1 degree F are both imperceptible

it's an advantage of having "below zero" actually tell you something, and to tell you something different from "below freezing". it's useful shorthand for "it's fucking freezing out"

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you can, or you can make things simple and use the human scale of measurement

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

simple and fahrenheit don't live in the same province

what could be more simple than putting the freezing point of water at 32 degrees?

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

I admire your steadfastness. o7

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it's not the only stupidly unrelateable metric unit but it comes up the most.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Stupidly unrelateable" lol. lmao

Americans stop universalizing your experience challenge (impossible)

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

ITT:

The exact same shit you're hollering about but from the other side. It's almost like it's all pretty fucking lame and you should just log off.

Celsius is more useful

reason: it's the unit people use

sidenote: a small, disadvantaged 3-4% minority never learned it, because of failures in their education system

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

SI is not "relatable" it is based on universally observable constants. no one has to ask another country "hey what's a kilogram" or "how long is a meter" you just do some math

to be fairrrrrrrrrrr, us units are all defined through metric units. so same

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

Justifying why it's not reallllly the same kinda bellyaching.

This web forum is a good source of consistency and intelligence at all times.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

I never said anything about Celsius being better. I was pointing out that "Fahrenheit is more human" - a take I see all the time from Americans - only seems to hold water if you are familiar with Fahrenheit. But then it just reduces to Fahrenheit is good because it's familiar. Which... yeah lol.

Celsius isn't better for regular people with the sole exception of telling you what kind of precipitation is falling based on the minus sign. But it's not worse either