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Morale is plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports
(www.independent.co.uk)
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And that's exactly why they will continue to be ICE employees
And that's exactly why we need to abolish ICE.
You can't abolish ice by pretending the people will eventually vanish into nowhere or get ok with public ostracism. That's marvel story, bud.
It has to be abolished via legislation. But the legislation won't pass without overwhelming public support and a willingness to primary anyone who doesn't support it. ICE was a mistake. It is beyond reform, because the only people ICE hires are people who voluntarily apply to join ICE.
At no point did I advocate letting up pressure or the ostracism these nazis have earned.
Ok we're talking different points here, let's disentangle.
There are legal procedures like aforementioned abolishing of ICE, DHS, what have you. I'm absolutely here with you my dear USAmericans.
But also there are other things like hundreds of thousands enraged men. If Trump fails today, they will grow resentful to move Vance or a worse big mouth GOP Nazi into the office tomorrow. You will either need an analog to Speziallager or some other magical measures like propaganda or forced lobotomy.
Something needs to change to stop the cycle of angry people who know they have no prospects falling for fascist propaganda about how they’re going to improve things. But the camps weren’t it. The movement to rid the government of nazis was slow and complicated. It disabled significant parts of the government which slowed down the economy, delayed important work like repairing infrastructure and thus made prospects even worse than they had to be for said disillusioned young men. Then the Soviets and the Brits and the U.S. all found some people too important to remove from their posts which left the Nazism in place and bred resentment about why some people were punished for their roles and others weren’t. The Soviets liked the camps the most, but because they believed in purifying the masses’ ideological beliefs. Which is papering over some of the practical policies therein.
What saved Germany from the masses of disillusioned men was actual opportunity and rising standards of living. What’s causing a ‘conservative’ resurgence there and in the U.S. and elsewhere is the backslide in those areas. The answer is improving people’s lives, or at least not worsening them. Admitting we need to change what is and isn’t considered ‘creating value’. Focus on caring for our young and elderly and caring less about how many physical hours you must waste standing or sitting or walking around somewhere because a middle manager likes owning your time. But if we want to leave oligarchs in place to toy with our health and happiness and then put ourselves in camps every so often that’s an option too I guess. I just feel as though that’s part of the cycle, not breaking the cycle.